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Posted 2007-10-17, 09:32 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I don't think all those lambs, dogs,..."
Uh. Your saying that there are lambs, dogs, and sheep that simply will not have sex with females of the same species in heat and spread right in front of them but instead take 4 steps to the left and stick their little doggy dicks in another dogs butt. Links please.
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Posted 2007-10-17, 09:33 PM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "Uh. Your saying that there are lambs,..."
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Uh. Your saying that there are lambs, dogs, and sheep that simply will not have sex with females of the same species in heat and spread right in front of them. Links please.
I'm saying that homosexual tendencies are exhibited in more than just humans. Bisexuality, at the very least, has been observed in a bunch of species. Again, I said a component of homosexuality is tied to genetics, not entirely.
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Posted 2007-10-17, 09:41 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I'm saying that homosexual tendencies..."
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I'm saying that homosexual tendencies are exhibited in more than just humans. Bisexuality, at the very least, has been observed in a bunch of species.
Yeah, I'll go ahead and back you up on this for Kaneda's benefit, it's been noticed and documented for years. I remember even seeing some kind of show that had a little side-blurb about this on Discovery or The Learning Channel ages ago.
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Posted 2007-10-17, 09:50 PM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "Yeah, I'll go ahead and back you up on..."
Ugh.

http://seedmagazine.com/news/2006/06...p?page=all&p=y

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15750604/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6066606.stm

http://www.livescience.com/bestimg/i...cat=gayanimals

I think the fact of the matter is as humans we must label and catagorize everything in the name of science. Therefore, we must fit into certain groups. So instead of just being like all other species and simply get sexual pleasure from whatever pleases us we have to be "gay" or "bisexual" or "straight." The previous to being much more seldom, it goes with our nature to reject it and count them as outcast. Which I don't see is so wrong really. I mean certain animal packs reject the old, the weak and hurt, or even just based off of markings and such.
And yes homosexual tendencies, which really don't exist except in our system. So no animals in the animal kingdom seem to be completely GAY just by our standards exibit what we would consider gay.

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Posted 2007-10-17, 09:52 PM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "Ugh. ..."
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I think the fact of the matter is as humans we must label and catagorize everything in the name of science. Therefore, we must fit into certain groups. So instead of just being like all other species and simply get sexual pleasure from whatever pleases us we have to be "gay" or "bisexual" or "straight." Such a bunch of crap.
Well, it makes sense. You have to be able to describe things/actions.
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Posted 2007-10-17, 09:54 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Well, it makes sense. You have to be..."
Edited. So maybe we're just like the animals and either society has taught us the "straight" ones to reject the "gayness" and the completely "gay" people are also influenced by other factors. Bi-sexual people are normal.

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Posted 2007-10-17, 10:59 PM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "Edited. So maybe we're just like the..."
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Edited. So maybe we're just like the animals and either society has taught us the "straight" ones to reject the "gayness" and the completely "gay" people are also influenced by other factors. Bi-sexual people are normal.
That's actually pretty likely and I would probably tend toward that explanation. Back when I was discussing this with Chruser, we pretty much came to somewhat of an agreement that all people are bisexual by nature but it is suppressed by society.
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