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Whats The Difference?!?
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Posted 2004-03-05, 08:54 AM
I havent been on diablo for awhile and could some one tell me WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LADDER AND NON-LADDER ITEMS.
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Posted 2004-03-05, 10:07 AM in reply to Mordenkaine's post "Whats The Difference?!?"
New in 1.10 is a separate ladder zone. Ladder characters cannot join games with non-ladder characters and vice-versa, therefore, ladder items are items on ladder characters. Note that ladder items will eventually become non-ladder items as ladder characters become non-ladder characters at the end of each ladder season.
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Posted 2004-03-05, 10:38 AM in reply to Mordenkaine's post "Whats The Difference?!?"
Mordenkaine said:
I havent been on diablo for awhile and could some one tell me WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LADDER AND NON-LADDER ITEMS.
The ladder has some items that are not available on non-ladder. These items may become very popular/expensive once the ladder chars are moved to non ladder status (end of this ladder season).

Other than that they are the same.

Also there are a few recipes for the cube that are ladder only recipes.

I think blizzard did this as incentive for people to make ladder characters.
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Posted 2004-03-05, 02:30 PM in reply to Nippletwister's post starting "The ladder has some items that are not..."
Another incentive was to have people start from scratch, and not always having really good stuff automatically at high levels. Does anyone actually know any info concerning when the Ladder Season ends?
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Posted 2004-03-06, 05:33 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "Another incentive was to have people..."
I am a moron, this whole ladder confuses me. I used to play a couple years ago and noone played ladder and now thats the place to be. But I just dont get the ladder thing. Why the hell is there ladder and non-ladder? WTF. I am losing my fing mind. I cant stand it anymore, somebody help me . AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Posted 2004-03-06, 09:04 AM in reply to Horbar's post starting "I am a moron, this whole ladder..."
Ok relax horbar, basically ladder is alot harder, like the monsters act like champion monsters and everything is harder. Since its harder there are some exclusive items in ladder play that wouldnt be on normal non-ladder (see arreat summit). Ladder works like hardcore where its a whole different place and cannot join any nonladder games. Ladder also has more cube recipe's basically u can make any rune like zod and all the rest of them (very attractive feature) and i think that about sums it up.
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Posted 2004-03-08, 10:05 AM in reply to SlickFic04's post starting "Ok relax horbar, basically ladder is..."
You forgot to mention the idea of other cool items, like BOTD or Breath of the Dying...Such an awesome weapon

.And.

About this end of season how does that work out? Do you start over in ladder or are you moved to non-ladder and what happens to your items? Do they get deleted?
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Posted 2004-03-08, 12:36 PM in reply to Mordenkaine's post starting "You forgot to mention the idea of other..."
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You forgot to mention the idea of other cool items, like BOTD or Breath of the Dying...Such an awesome weapon

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About this end of season how does that work out? Do you start over in ladder or are you moved to non-ladder and what happens to your items? Do they get deleted?

I don't believe that ladder monsters are harder than the non-ladder monsters. I think all monsters (in both Ladder and Non) got a revamp in the 1.10 patch. Also, the ladder seems harder because everyone hard to start from scratch without the uber items they had become used to.
FYI - the cool items like BOTD are available in Non ladder games. There are a few exceptions but not all that many.
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Posted 2004-03-08, 04:12 PM in reply to Nippletwister's post starting "I don't believe that ladder monsters..."
sickfic04 is right this is taken directly from the arreat summit.

Ladder Games Have Increased Difficulty
Ladder Games offer a more challenging type of gameplay than players will find in Normal Games. Monster AI speeds have been increased. Reaction times increased for Ladder Nightmare and Hell games. Basically every monster acts like a super unique. Monster Hit Points have been increased for Nightmare and Hell Ladder games too.
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Posted 2004-03-09, 01:26 PM in reply to tidus2005's post starting "sickfic04 is right this is taken..."
No one still has told me about the reset...your scaring me about the word RESET meaning redo or start over
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Posted 2004-03-11, 12:04 PM in reply to Mordenkaine's post starting "No one still has told me about the..."
Basically in about a year (when a new game should be out considering lod is 3 years old and d2 is 5 years old ) they should come with a new idea and not take 5 years to make it and make a new game. So stop whinning and if not a new game you just stay with your current chars or move to ladder just like now, duh.
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Posted 2004-03-12, 09:25 AM in reply to Mordenkaine's post starting "No one still has told me about the..."
When a ladder season is over (We haven't finished one yet, so they're fairly long.), all ladder characters are moved to non-ladder with everyone else. They keep all their stuff. Then, players will proceed to make new characters in the new ladder.

You do not have to make new characters. You can stick with your old characters, but you will not be able to get ladder-only items or advance with the majority of the players who move to ladder. (I expect the ladder community to be 20-40% smaller than it is now, which is still a large amount.)
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