Serious Business

Honestly, all it is, is the PvE faggots. No PVP guild would give two shits what you talked about. In PvP you dont have to worry about sucking up to your GM so you get accepted to raids. You don't have to count on 9 or 24 other people showing up and doing their very best. You have to accept the fact that your going to lose battlegrounds, and sometimes you win arena. If you can cope with that then you need to pvp, and stay far FAR away from PvE.