[PC] Warhammer Online

You're a moron. WoW came out four years before Warhammer. The stuff Warhammer stole is gameplay related. Noone but noone gives a damn about any story/senario similarities.

Without Dungeons and Dragons there would have been no Warhammer, and without Warhammer there would have been no World of Warcraft. To say that World of Warcraft thought of everyone by itself and stole no idea's from anything is absurd. Dungeons and Dragons created multiplayer questing, and roleplaying. Take that away from World of Warcraft and you have nothing.

Again, you're retarded or blind. Read what I'm saying. World of Warcraft put together the set of gameplay details that resulted in a fun and profitable experience. There were many MMORPGs before WoW, but they did not have all those features. Almost every good feature from WoW has been put in Warhammer. Warhammer gameplay is like WoW's gameplay refined for four years by the devs and mod makers. They've added many good features of their own and from other games, but at the core, the gameplay is a ripoff from WoW. I'm not talking about the things that make it a multiplayer RPG; of course it has those things -- that's what it is.

World of Warcraft innovated every aspect of Dungeons and Dragons..

Dungeons and Dragons

put together the set of gameplay details that resulted in a fun experience.

World of Warcraft

put together the set of gameplay details that resulted in a fun and profitable experience.

Tell me, how can you pretend like WoW came up with this stuff?

You can you be so hard headed? We're talking about computer games here. And as a computer game, WoW was very innovative.

I agree it was, but it took what DND created to make WoW. WoW didn't think of anything for itself. Everything in it has come from DND.

Again, this is the forum where we discuss computer games, not paper and pencil games.

I agree it was, but it took what DND created to make WoW. WoW didn't think of anything for itself. Everything in it has come from DND.

DnD was also heavily inspired by fantasy literature before that, this is always a stupid fucking repetitive argument where we measure the imaginative phalli of our favorite game/universe/blah blah.

I'm often the first person to point out Blizzard's habit of blatantly stealing material, but goddamn you must not speak the english or something.


Edit: For something on-topic, I'm mostly of a mind with Sovereign. Played the Beta 6 months ago, shit sucked. Played again about a week ago, was a little better, but still ended up sucking. Mythic's concept of balance is slightly retarded and it's buggier than hell STILL, with it being released what, this week?

Without Dungeons and Dragons there would have been no Warhammer, and without Warhammer there would have been no World of Warcraft. To say that World of Warcraft thought of everyone by itself and stole no idea's from anything is absurd. Dungeons and Dragons created multiplayer questing, and roleplaying. Take that away from World of Warcraft and you have nothing.

You have a cool name.

huh? im confused

I just basically said that all you would have left is a name.

..Oh, Anyway WetWired!!

I found something interesting, I went onto another server and tried it out after logging into my FULL 300+ destruction server and immedetly being CTD'ed. and everything was working fine, I logged out of the Order character I had made and went to change servers when I saw this..

Request Timed Out and it had two options. Exit to loader or Exit to desktop. Do you think there is some way it is overriding decision and just exiting to the desktop?

Maybe a keypress?