Should D3V be unbanned?

I think there's no doubt about the fact that he's changed. But that doesn't change the fact that both you and at least a couple others do not like him. With most of you having the power to ban him on practically a whim, the likelihood of him getting banned (at least temporarily) again is pretty high. It doesn't mean there is no confidence in his ability to act mature, but in the ability of a few admins to not pull the trigger when their finger's oh-so-ready to do so.

Again, like I said, your idea is not conducive to Zelaron's health. You want to ban people who are having mature, intellectual discourse over the subject if you, or another admin, decides that even a minor infraction is worth punishing him over (which happened all the time.) If D3v acts like an ass again you can ban him again, but taking another member who is not doing the deed just because they have some faith in the man is very silly.

I think there's no doubt about the fact that he's changed. But that doesn't change the fact that both you and at least a couple others do not like him. With most of you having the power to ban him on practically a whim, the likelihood of him getting banned (at least temporarily) again is pretty high. It doesn't mean there is no confidence in his ability to act mature, but in the ability of a few admins to not pull the trigger when their finger's oh-so-ready to do so.

Well the way things were handled for the last little while D3v was here was that Chruser made the call what would happen to D3v if he stepped out of line. I was specifically told not to take action against him, but rather forward
any concerns to Chruser and let him deal with it.

If you're claiming Chruser has some bias against D3v, well, I'd say you're wrong. Even if you're not, it's Chruser's forum and I don't think anyone is going to stop him from banning whoever he wants.

Again, like I said, your idea is not conducive to Zelaron's health. You want to ban people who are having mature, intellectual discourse over the subject if you, or another admin, decides that even a minor infraction is worth punishing him over (which happened all the time.) If D3v acts like an ass again you can ban him again, but taking another member who is not doing the deed just because they have some faith in the man is very silly.

Actually it's quite the contrary. My idea is a valid argument against unbanning D3v, because if nobody has the faith in D3v to risk getting banned right along with him, it shows that nobody really thinks D3v has changed.

I don't expect that my idea will ever be put to use, because this will never get to that point. D3v will most likely not be unbanned, and my idea is basically only serving as a safety net.

Therefore, since my idea is helping prevent D3v's return, it is, by definition, conducive to Zelaron's health.

Wetwired should post his thoughts and vote.

Hey, how about I vouch for him? You can ban me along with him if he doesn't shapen up when he comes back. I'm pretty confident that he would be fine if unbanned.

Why you? Why not just have SirPullido vouch for him. If D3v gets banned again, we'll ban SirPullido too.

let just make an account that it will get banned if d3v will and it availible to everyone

Why you? Why not just have SirPullido vouch for him. If D3v gets banned again, we'll ban SirPullido too.

There you have it. You've got somebody to vouch for him. Somebody is actually going along with your idiotic way to resolve this... You specifically named ME to vouch for him and now that somebody else besides me wants to vouch, suddenly he can't do it?

Wow.

How about this: If you don't let Titus vouch for him, I will. If D3V gets banned again and I get banned too, oh well. This is just a forum.. there are plenty of other good forums on the web, I'll just find another one should I be banned from here. There you have it.. the magical words you've been looking for KA, I'll vouch for D3V.

It's not like Chruser said your idea has any validity anyway.

K_A's idea really goes along with the spirit of expanding the forum's active member base...

K_A's idea really goes along with the spirit of expanding the forum's active member base...

The purpose is to fish out the asshats like d3v and his fellow fanboys

With the 1/2 decent to decent members not worrying about what poor ol d3v is doing. He got banned boo hoo bring my boytoy back so i can speak with him about voom vooms. lol

i will too well heck if im banned who will care not me and with the bann sread out d3v will care about getting banned

It's not like Chruser said your idea has any validity anyway.

2 days ago.


[11:35] PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: Did you view my idea about unbanning D3v?
[11:35] Zelaron: Yes.
[11:35] PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: k
[11:35] Zelaron: I don't think anyone will assume responsibility for his actions.
[11:35] PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: Then I see no reason to give him another chance
[11:35] Zelaron: It was a good argument against unbanning him, either way.
[11:35] Zelaron: The poll isn't really in his favor, anyway.
[11:35] PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: If nobody is willing to put their own ass on the line
[11:36] PiMPiNReDHaTMaN: That means nobody believes he has changed
[11:36] Zelaron: Well, actually, it IS, but it's pretty much a tie.
[11:36] Zelaron: Which, at this rate doesn't exactly merit unbanning him due to the "conflict", I guess.

Then put your idea into play. You have 4 people that will vouch for him. I think that should be enough.

Why you? Why not just have SirPullido vouch for him. If D3v gets banned again, we'll ban SirPullido too.

Rofl oh Sir.Pullido, yeah titus you don't come here enough.

i do i come here evryday

i do i come here evryday

PLEASE. Hell, I'd be willing to trade jamer for D3v. Just ban jamer and unban D3v, you won't hear a complaint out of me.

Your idea is about the worst way of going about this, actually.