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Posted 2008-02-13, 07:21 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "Well, no shit. Of course it's still..."
They did the study to prove it with evidence. There's always a reason, D3V.
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Posted 2008-02-13, 07:42 AM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "They did the study to prove it with..."
Yeahhhh, but what is to gain from the article? I just feel that sociologists are all crocks of shit, they're the same people that put together those stupid statistics on CNN that shows how many of what race votes for which candidate, and what religion they are, and why they would vote for them, etc. Who gives a fuck? Seriously, it boils down to the relevance of the article, which really isn't that big. There are so many variables after 9/11 that could also be tied into everything that is mentioned.

Let's remember, we have a shitty economy, we're AT WAR!, There are terrorists floating around the world that hate us, we have problems with our planet such as global warming and pollution, of course people are going to be stressed out, this article proves nothing other than some jackass sociologist believes that one certain event contributes to everything, in which it doesn't, there are strictly too many variables to factor in.














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Posted 2008-02-13, 11:02 AM in reply to D3V's post starting "Yeahhhh, but what is to gain from the..."
Well, in that case, why does the scientific process matter at all? Everything needs to be supported with evidence. Why does it matter? Education matters.
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Posted 2008-02-13, 11:33 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Well, in that case, why does the..."
You're missing my point, home-brey. The scientific process always matters, but it's level of relevance to everyday lives is what is at stake. For example, if I had never read this article common sense could've explained to me that we're more stressed out after 9/11, but in my specific case maybe my girlfriend has been pissing me off, or any other of a million variables could be affecting my life. Just the world as a whole sucks right now, we all need to chill out.














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Posted 2008-02-13, 12:35 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "You're missing my point, home-brey. ..."
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You're missing my point, home-brey. The scientific process always matters, but it's level of relevance to everyday lives is what is at stake. For example, if I had never read this article common sense could've explained to me that we're more stressed out after 9/11, but in my specific case maybe my girlfriend has been pissing me off, or any other of a million variables could be affecting my life. Just the world as a whole sucks right now, we all need to chill out.
Sure, the results of this study panned out as expected. Exactly like the study my professor is performing (detailed in "The Language Gene" thread in the science forum) has expected results. Science isn't all about inducing astonishing paradigm shifts all the time. Sure, that's what gets hailed in the media, but in general, that is not what science is. It's a slow, gradual process. It's about confirming, and reconfirming what you already know until it's established beyond any doubt. This study does exactly that.

It's not as though there aren't unexpected results in sociology as well. For instance, you may be interested in the panic myth.

But nevertheless, I think sociology is an important field of study. It shows us how social forces shape individual attitudes and behaviors, it shows how societies are developed and maintained, allows us to see the bridge between the individual and society, allows us to better appreciate the diversity in the human populations, and, contrary to what you say, challenges our commonly held beliefs about society as a whole among other things.
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Posted 2008-02-13, 12:44 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Sure, the results of this study panned..."
This is pretty well a generally understood phenomenon. It was a strike below the belt and makes us feel a lot less safe.
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Posted 2008-02-13, 12:49 PM in reply to Willkillforfood's post starting "This is pretty well a generally..."
That's where I was getting at, and MJ you're just reiterating my point. It's over-analyzed, we already have basic human instinctions and interactions down pat beyond any unreasonable circumstances, because we've already had almost everything happen to us.














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