Unified Race, Utopia or Not?

Ahh, I see what you mean.

Well, under your premise I suppose we may attain temporary peace when everyone agrees with each other. How we would get to that point, I don't know. However, if we do get to that point I forsee a rapid divergence and we once again slump back into our little groups that fight amongst each other.

Well arguments are just trying to findout who/what is right.

In the individuals sense, arguments are not really a bad thing. If it weren't for arguments, we'd never have gotten anywhere, as far as science is concerned. If the original scientists hadn't argued with each other they would have never known what was right.

However, as a great man once said, "War does not determine who is right, it determines who is left."

Arguments over things such as race and religion do not serve humanity in any good way at all, and thus need to be eliminated if we ever hope to show the true potential of the human race. One way to eliminate such arguments is to eliminate what the arguments are over.

Most wars, as far as I know, are over religion or land. If there's one unified group, there's absolutely no need to go to war with another country to take their land, as such a thing would not be possible if there were not another country.

Then there are things lesser than wars, such as racism and discrimination based on many factors such as race, religion, sex, etc. They might not be as serious as war, but they are not as simple as an argument between two people. They would equally be eliminated if there were not such differences.

Very true, though I am still a believer in God and a higher being essence, and until that is proven wrong, myself and billions of other people are probably never going to change

I added some more to my post, by the way.

And do remember, I'm talking about forced change, not us asking you to stop believing what you believe.

I'm talking, strip your identity, and if you resist or fight, you get eliminated. At that point, you don't matter any more.

It would most definately be a very rough time, but in the long run it would be benificial.

I am all for world peace and such, but I do not feel that a utopian, single-government society is possible with our race without substantial mental conditioning from birth and possibly even genetic manipulation. There would be many who would resist having this done to their children, and would either have to be eliminated or brainwashed. Much of the populace would resist if any of this had been carried out in secret, the genocide that would ensue wouldn't leave much left, and you'd have many people left who simply lacked the will to fight, and would leave not a utopian society, but the remainder of the world populace cowering in fear of an all-powerful regime. It's exactly the same that happens when a populace is conquered!

A forced utopia will NEVER be a utopia, it will simply end up being what you tend to recognize as modern Communism, as ideal Communism was a utopian society, which never occurred. The only way to get a utopian society is through the united efforts of every person involved with a 100% desire to make it work, which will never really work with humans as we are honestly too contrary to commit to our fellow man in that way. There are many people who would simply refuse because that's just the way they are or someone already involved is someone that they simply dislike for some reason.

Ignorance, greed, and pride are the biggest reasons why this would never work. Ignorance is very difficult to combat, and greed/pride are often parts of human nature because we've been programmed to survive in a competitive environment for millions of years. The only way to combat these are strict behavioral conditioning from a VERY early age, which would be essentially Brainwashing the young into this (an excellent reference for something similar would be the book The Giver), and would be very easily undone if they were allowed contact with the non-conforming Outside.

One could also argue that without true conflict, research could be stunted. There are many things that were researched and developed for War use that have benefitted the public well, especially in the Medical field. War is a terrible thing, but there are things we have access to now that we wouldn't have had if it weren't for our violent nature, heh.

Good book, by the way.

Perhaps it wouldn't need to seem forced. Say, give people the option of leaving the society to go somewhere else. The falce option. A guise, per-say. When they get on your plane to go somewhere else, you eliminate them. Nobody knows any better.

I'm talking, strip your identity, and if you resist or fight, you get eliminated. At that point, you don't matter any more. It would most definately be a very rough time, but in the long run it would be benificial.

True, but thats wrong.

Once race would solve alot of our problems and bring humanity to a whole new level. Kind of like a colony of ants.

Ignorance isn't hard to combat. Stupidity is. You can always teach people. It's the people that don't learn that must be eliminated.

The world needs a breeding system put into effect really.

The only downfall to a Utopian world is that itself. If your whole life everything was great and you had everything you wanted at your finger tips what would be the point. It would be boring. I don't know the meaning of life but I'm sure that would elimate whatever it is. Thats the same reason Heaven is an absured notion.

Sure we could achiever great heights and perhaps find out all about our creators and ancestors as I like to think, but then again do we really want to? Would it be all that great, it could be a huge let down. Or it could answer every question ever.

True, but thats wrong.

There is no universal "right" or "wrong." What's right to you might be wrong to me. It's relative to your own beliefs.

If you mean "in my opinion that's wrong" then I take it back.