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Posted 2007-08-10, 07:12 PM in reply to RoboticSilence's post starting "I'm going to have to side with KA on..."
I am by no means advocating that someone try and substitute pills in place of actual parenting because magic pills don't exist, however what is wrong with taking the easy way out when it works just as well as the alternative, and does not harm anyone?

RS, I am curious, if you believed that ADHD was a biological condition rather than a mental one would it change your opinion on whether or not medicine should be taken to resolve the problem?
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Posted 2007-10-01, 08:28 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I am by no means advocating that..."
Since we had some discussion on depression as well, this is an interesting read:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1001172838.htm
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Posted 2007-10-02, 03:24 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I am by no means advocating that..."
Alright I didn't read this entire thread because their was alot to read but,

1. !K_A!, Some people are depressed for no reason at all, they have a fine life, a job, etc. but there is a chemical imbalance in their brain that makes them feel sad. Seritonin is the neurotransmitter that controls mood, in people that have this chemical imbalance, the neuron releases Seritonin into the synapse, and Receptor site of the next Neuron "absorbs" as much as possible. For some reason though, the channels of neuron do not hold all of the seritonin released, so when the re-uptake from the origonal neuron happens, it takes in to much, causing an imbalance between the neuron and the receptor site.

This is what the Anti-Depressents are for. They have a technical name of SSRI's which means Selective Seritonin Reputake Inhibitor. So, when they are on the medicine, it blocks some of the channels for the reuptake to take place making it so only some of the seritonin is re-absorbed, balancing out the chemicals. The left overs are then dissolved by enzymes.

I'm not a scientist so don't flame me for not knowing everything, but this is the general idea of what happens..
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Posted 2007-10-02, 03:46 PM in reply to -Spector-'s post starting "Alright I didn't read this entire..."
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Alright I didn't read this entire thread because their was alot to read but,

1. !K_A!, Some people are depressed for no reason at all, they have a fine life, a job, etc. but there is a chemical imbalance in their brain that makes them feel sad. Seritonin is the neurotransmitter that controls mood, in people that have this chemical imbalance, the neuron releases Seritonin into the synapse, and Receptor site of the next Neuron "absorbs" as much as possible. For some reason though, the channels of neuron do not hold all of the seritonin released, so when the re-uptake from the origonal neuron happens, it takes in to much, causing an imbalance between the neuron and the receptor site.

This is what the Anti-Depressents are for. They have a technical name of SSRI's which means Selective Seritonin Reputake Inhibitor. So, when they are on the medicine, it blocks some of the channels for the reuptake to take place making it so only some of the seritonin is re-absorbed, balancing out the chemicals. The left overs are then dissolved by enzymes.

I'm not a scientist so don't flame me for not knowing everything, but this is the general idea of what happens..
I understand that, Spector, and acknowledged it. However, I feel that the majority of people who take anti-depressants aren't in that category. Same with ADHD.
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Posted 2007-10-02, 04:29 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I understand that, Spector, and..."
Well in that case, I agree with you
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Posted 2007-10-02, 07:11 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I understand that, Spector, and..."
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I understand that, Spector, and acknowledged it. However, I feel that the majority of people who take anti-depressants aren't in that category. Same with ADHD.
What are you basing this off of, though? Personal experiences? It may just be that certain people you know flamboyantly display the fact that they are on antidepressants, and these stand out in your mind when making judgments like this. I think your best bet is to read some research journals on the topic and see what the medical community has to say about disparity between those who need the medication and those who take it haphazardly. It may not be as wide a rift as you believe.
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Posted 2007-10-02, 11:55 PM in reply to Grav's post starting "What are you basing this off of,..."
I trust my personal experience more than the medical community. The people who make antidepressants, and make money for prescribing antidepressants, are part of the medical community.

It's the same as flu shots. The people who make them will most definately tell you that you should really really get one. They don't tell you that they're nearly ineffective at reducing flu-related illness and they've been possibly linked to the increase in autism in children.

Yes, I'm assuming. Most people I see who take anti-depressants are people who have shitty lives and can't cope with or fix their shitty lives, so they get a prescription to help.
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Posted 2007-10-06, 01:03 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I trust my personal experience more..."
I wish I had a prescription for ADD meds. How does an adult go about getting a prescription for that?
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Posted 2007-10-06, 01:16 AM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "I wish I had a prescription for ADD..."
Say you can't concentrate at work, find your mind wandering and you can't do anything about it and it's affecting your ability to do your job.
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Posted 2007-10-06, 01:38 AM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "I wish I had a prescription for ADD..."
Google. You should be able to find enough info on how to fake a doctor to think you have adhd even if you dont
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