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Posted 2007-08-08, 12:39 PM in reply to Thanatos's post starting "They gave me generic hyrdrocodone...."
I'm getting two pulled tomorrow. Don't know what I'll be getting for them. I don't really like taking Rx meds, anyway. It is frightening how many kids are overmedicated these days. Antibiotics for every sniffle, anti-depressants in liquid form for 5 year olds. It's pretty bad. Sometimes they do need the meds to stay alive (in very severe cases), but most often all we see is the result of the "take a pill and fix it" society. And I'm the pusher.
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Posted 2007-08-08, 01:04 PM in reply to Vault Dweller's post starting "I'm getting two pulled tomorrow. Don't..."
I agree with that. These days, for every little thing, you go to the doctor and get medication. Heck, you even get medication for made up things(ADD).
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Posted 2007-08-08, 01:12 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I agree with that. These days, for..."
I wouldn't go as far as to say ADD or ADHD are completely "made up." I've definitely seen cases where prescriptions are necessary. I will agree that those medications (Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta, etc.) are over-prescribed. In fact, one of my pharmacist friends has already said that she's going to put her 5 year-old on Ritalin during high-school, just to improve her chances of getting into a good college. I asked if her daughter medically needed it, and the short version of the answer was "no." That blew my fucking mind.

On a side note, I recently discovered that Freudian slips are possible when typing. I was waiting on this hot, HOT mommy at work, took her kid's Rx, walked over to the computer terminal to type it in, and proceeded to unwittingly type "Titalin."
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Posted 2007-08-08, 01:14 PM in reply to Vault Dweller's post starting "I wouldn't go as far as to say ADD or..."
ADD or ADHD may indeed be real, but I don't think they're like, a defect in the human brain. I think how a parent raises their kid will determine whether or not they have ADD or ADHD. ADD is pretty much a nice way of saying a kid is unruly, in my opinion, and that shouldn't be solved with medication.
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Posted 2007-08-08, 01:22 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "ADD or ADHD may indeed be real, but I..."
Hyperactivity is one thing. I definitely think that lots of these kids just need to run around outside more and wear themselves out. However, in a classroom setting, some of them are simply incapable of concentrating and learning. If taking a pill will make the difference between productive classtime and generally disruptive insanity, then I'm all for the pill.
I guess my point is that these cases genuinely occur perhaps once per classroom. If you look at the prescription records, though, I'd say it's closer to a 5 per classroom ratio, on average (perhaps more). That's just unnecessary.
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Posted 2007-08-08, 01:25 PM in reply to Vault Dweller's post starting "Hyperactivity is one thing. I..."
Until someone can prove to me somehow that a kid not being able to pay attention is a disorder, I'll believe otherwise. I think if a kid can't pay attention in class(for example, if they talk a lot, don't do their work, run around the room screaming, etc,) I can only assume it's because of how they were raised(or not raised, I suppose.)

Now, what you're describing sounds more like dyslexia, which can't be fixed with a pill, as far as I know. If a kid has trouble concentrating and learning, I would suspect there's more at work than simple behavioral problems, and I would look more into learning disabilities such as dyslexia.
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Posted 2007-08-08, 01:34 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Until someone can prove to me somehow..."
I'm down with you guys, Kids honestly do need longer recess, why do you think the rich kid schools have better results? Longer recesses.














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Posted 2007-08-08, 04:16 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "ADD or ADHD may indeed be real, but I..."
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ADD or ADHD may indeed be real, but I don't think they're like, a defect in the human brain. I think how a parent raises their kid will determine whether or not they have ADD or ADHD. ADD is pretty much a nice way of saying a kid is unruly, in my opinion, and that shouldn't be solved with medication.
Not exactly, I'm pretty sure I have this problem and it has developed as I get older. I honestly have problems focusing on a singular train of thought or task to the point of frustration very often, in nearly any environment.

I don't believe my upbringing is part of the issue either, as my house was fairly well disciplined and I was never really a "hyper" child.

I wouldn't deny that most people use ADD as another method of saying a kid is unruly, but I believe there are real cases of this.
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Posted 2008-11-14, 01:47 PM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "Not exactly, I'm pretty sure I have..."
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I agree with that. These days, for every little thing, you go to the doctor and get medication. Heck, you even get medication for made up things(ADD).
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ADD or ADHD may indeed be real, but I don't think they're like, a defect in the human brain. I think how a parent raises their kid will determine whether or not they have ADD or ADHD. ADD is pretty much a nice way of saying a kid is unruly, in my opinion, and that shouldn't be solved with medication.
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Until someone can prove to me somehow that a kid not being able to pay attention is a disorder, I'll believe otherwise. I think if a kid can't pay attention in class(for example, if they talk a lot, don't do their work, run around the room screaming, etc,) I can only assume it's because of how they were raised(or not raised, I suppose.)

Now, what you're describing sounds more like dyslexia, which can't be fixed with a pill, as far as I know. If a kid has trouble concentrating and learning, I would suspect there's more at work than simple behavioral problems, and I would look more into learning disabilities such as dyslexia.
Look how retarded I was! I had ADD myself and didn't even realize it :P
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Posted 2008-11-14, 02:04 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Look how retarded I was! I had ADD..."
lawls @ you.
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