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Posted 2007-07-18, 04:53 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post "Say Goodbye to Darwinian Evolution"
I'm skeptical as well, especially with the gene-sharing. There will be a lot of people resisting, not to mention corporations will be wanting to keep anything from becoming 'Open Source'. I don't think evolution will ever become 'Communal' again, I'm pretty sure that bridge has long been burned.

The green economy thing in your first quote is interesting though, those would be some pretty serious tasks for biological engineering.
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Posted 2007-07-18, 09:33 PM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "I'm skeptical as well, especially with..."
Yea, while Dyson may be a renowned physicist, he's too much of a futurist for me.
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Posted 2007-07-18, 09:39 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Yea, while Dyson may be a renowned..."
Honestly, that seems to have quite a bit of Transcendent thought, too much to be realistic.

I think he underestimates the greed of humanity.
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Posted 2007-07-18, 09:41 PM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "Honestly, that seems to have quite a..."
I could see it happening in socialist societies, however. While corporations don't really have any incentive to switch over to green technology, governments might.
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Posted 2007-07-18, 09:46 PM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I could see it happening in socialist..."
Honestly, I don't think our government would switch if the Corps weren't interested. There's entirely too much influence there.
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Posted 2007-07-19, 01:48 AM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "Honestly, I don't think our government..."
As much fun as his Green technology theories sound, does anyone else see the problem with genetically engineered termites that eat substances other than wood? If those things got loose, we'd all be F'd in the A.

I'm definitely noting a hint of the ramblings of a futurist here, but someone has to be looking forward. If you read The Structure of Scientific Revolutions (and believe what Thomas Kuhn has to say in it), science is perpetually experiencing paradigm shifts. As progress is made in a particular field and discoveries build upon each other, eventually the entire scientific community undergoes a change so drastic that new possibilities open that were never before thought possible (take the discovery of the round earth, for instance). It definitely seems that we could be approaching one of these paradigm shifts. That's not to say that Dyson is accurate in his specific predictions. Given where we are technologically, though, who is to say what is out of reach.

Oh, and I agree on the whole corporate/government link.
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Posted 2007-07-19, 08:09 AM in reply to Vault Dweller's post starting "As much fun as his Green technology..."
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The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
Off-topic, but you're my hero. I finished that book about a week ago, and you're the only person I know now other than myself who has read the book.
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Posted 2007-07-25, 10:47 PM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "Honestly, that seems to have quite a..."
Interesting theory but a bit dramatic. Even if we have rampant biotech that is certainly not going to stop humans from making and keeping furry creatures with pleasant or exaggerated features for their amusement.

I see a battle going on between "intellect" and natural order (even though we all know who has the upper hand ). We build everything around us to keep out big scary dangerous nature. Watching commercials for disinfectants worries me even more. We are going to kill ourselves with this healthcare business. :/

Anyway this rant is too fuckin' disjointed to make sense!

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Posted 2007-07-26, 06:41 AM in reply to RoboticSilence's post starting "Interesting theory but a bit dramatic. ..."
Cannot stop Darwinian Evolution or Natural Selection. At the risk of sounding lame(er) nature always finds a way.
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Posted 2007-07-26, 08:39 AM in reply to Nowherebrain's post starting "Cannot stop Darwinian Evolution or..."
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Cannot stop Darwinian Evolution or Natural Selection. At the risk of sounding lame(er) nature always finds a way.
Sure you can. Government imposed eugenics.
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Posted 2007-07-26, 10:05 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Sure you can. Government imposed..."
MJ even though eugenics may be logical in a biological sense it is so far off the social acceptance scale that it could never be enacted in a modern government after WWII unless something pretty substantial happens.

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