Stolen Identity (Aim + other stuff)

1. I doubt someone with an unencrypted network has the know-how to do something like that. It probably happened somewhere else, such as school.

2. Why does your girlfriend have "credit card numbers"? Aren't you guys 14?

3. A Singapore teenager is facing three years in jail and military service for using a neighbors Wi-Fi network. http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36499

1. I doubt someone with an unencrypted network has the know-how to do something like that. It probably happened somewhere else, such as school. 2. Why does your girlfriend have "credit card numbers"? Aren't you guys 14? 3. A Singapore teenager is facing three years in jail and military service for using a neighbors Wi-Fi network. http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36499

1.) It might be apathy. My network was unencrypted for quite a while, though from what Mantra told me Aim passwords are Md5 encrypted, so I doubt whoever this was he got her password from her Aim account. I guess she uses the same password for aim as she does for other things.

2.) She's 2 and a half years older than me. She's in college. However, I do have a credit card...

3.) That's nice.

I know a person with an open router and a redirect for unauthorized MAC addresses to a page of viruses. Just because someone doesn't secure their network doesn't mean they don't know how. If this person is in a place where they are likely to get a lot of random connections, they very well may have a sniffer and data miner because they derive pleasure from causing others pain. On the other hand, if the network was in the middle of nowhere and there were lots of secure networks in the area, I doubt even the most depraved would go to the trouble.

As far as Singapore goes, there, you can get cained for spitting your gum out on the ground; I wouldn't use them as a judge of sane judiciary process.

2.) She's 2 and a half years older than me. She's in college. However, I do have a credit card...

Well, that's a little creepy unexpected.

If this person is in a place where they are likely to get a lot of random connections, they very well may have a sniffer and data miner because they derive pleasure from causing others pain. As far as Singapore goes, there, you can get cained for spitting your gum out on the ground; I wouldn't use them as a judge of sane judiciary process.

Are you one of those people?

Anyway, linking to the article was a joke.

they very well may have a sniffer and data miner because they derive pleasure from causing others pain.

IMO if someone is using someone elses wireless connection without permission and the owner of the wireless connection does something malicious, the person using the wireless connection without permission deserves it.


It kind of reminds me of the stories you hear about a burglar breaking into someone's house, hurting himself by tripping on something or what have you, and then suing the owners of the house for his injury. Pretty damn stupid.

So if I walk across your lawn I deserve to get shot?

That's a pretty silly analogy.

More like, if you come in my house without permission, whether I've got my door locked or not, you deserve anything that happens to you because of it. It's you're own damn fault for coming in.

If I walk into your house you should be able to mug me for my wallet (identity theft)?

If I walk into your house you should be able to mug me for my wallet (identity theft)?

No, but the internet is slightly different from real life events. They can be compared in some instances, but in that one, no, they aren't the same.

Identity theft is a huge thing online, and using someone elses wireless connection is asking for your shit to be messed with.

A better comparison would be you coming into my house uninvited, giving me your wallet, and then expecting me not to steal your identity.

What would happen if someone broke into your house, and put a gun to your head, but you mugged them, and locked them out?

I know its a very childish question, but I'm just wondering.

If I walk into your house you should be able to mug me for my wallet (identity theft)?

I don't suppose so, but hey that doesn't mean my super sonic atomic pet badger won't. :D I call him muffin.

We're still getting prosecuted for shooting burglars in the face.

But we can blow giant holes into the rest of their bodies, so it doesn't matter much.

Hmm, I'm using my neighbor's wireless connection I believe. It's somebody on my block, that's for sure. I have no idea how I can just connect to it without any problems. It's sweet not paying for internet though.

So this leaves me vulnerable for anything he/she may try to do?

So this leaves me vulnerable for anything he/she may try to do?

Yes, very.