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Posted 2006-11-27, 03:04 AM in reply to hotdog's post starting "Big words coming from someone who can't..."
hotdog said:
Big words coming from someone who can't even control his own thoughts.
Here's a suggestion: think before you post. Can anyone consciously control all of their thoughts? No. Moron.

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Posted 2006-11-27, 03:26 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Here's a suggestion: think before you..."
mjordan2nd said:
Here's a suggestion: think before you post. Can anyone consciously control all of their thoughts? No. Moron.
I beg to differ. Yoda controls his thoughts and everyone else in the universe.
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Posted 2006-11-27, 03:27 AM in reply to timmay1113's post starting "I beg to differ. Yoda controls his..."
timmay1113 said:
I beg to differ. Yoda controls his thoughts and everyone else in the universe.
YODA doesn't count, ffs!
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Posted 2006-11-27, 07:51 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Here's a suggestion: think before you..."
mjordan2nd said:
Here's a suggestion: think before you post. Can anyone consciously control all of their thoughts? No. Moron.
Hmm, what do you mean? I don't have trouble controlling my thinking.
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Posted 2006-11-27, 08:00 AM in reply to Grav's post starting "Hmm, what do you mean? I don't have..."
GravitonSurge said:
Hmm, what do you mean? I don't have trouble controlling my thinking.
Even the most focused, logical, rational person in the world is subject to human emotion engendered by causes beyond their control, and therefore is also subject to a lack of complete control over their thoughts.
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Posted 2006-11-27, 08:13 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "Even the most focused, logical,..."
I believe what you're talking about is more tied into biological instinct than emotion. Either way, people need emotion to be civil and moral. It's just part of us. I think that emotion is tied into our thinking, not necessarily something that impedes it.

People have already tried the "all reasoning no emotions" schtick during the Age of Reasoning. It didn't work too well... and had massive backlashes of rampant emotion without reason such as the French Revolution. Compare the literature of 1750 to 1850 for example, and you will see a stark contrast.
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Posted 2006-11-27, 10:01 AM in reply to Grav's post starting "I believe what you're talking about is..."
I am in no way trying to say that human beings should be emotionless, nor do I think that emotions are the only thing that drive your thoughts other than your consciousness. I do, however, think that emotions impede rational thought.

For example, an outburst of anger towards a relatively innocuous event, which is common, can hardly be described as a conscious thought. It is certainly a thought, but not one you make consciously, it is one you make compulsively. Reactions following this outburst are generally also somewhat compulsive.

There are, of course, plenty of other factors which drive what we think about. As you've already mentioned, biological impulses certainly drive our thoughts. For instance, lets say your stomach is rumbling from hunger. It is safe to say that at this point your thoughts will also be lingering on the idea of getting something to eat. Again, it is tough to say whether these are thoughts that are controlled or compulsive.

The desire for sexual gratification is also fairly compulsive. Though yes, sexual urges can be controlled, I find that thoughts often dwell on this subject when it would be beneficial that they did not, and I would rather they did not.

In adolescents, it is a well known fact that harmones play a role in their behavior. They are more irascible and more susceptible to a wide range of emotions than normal. Again, in my definition, this is not controlled.

Hallucination, though an extreme form of lack of control of thought, is certainly a good example here. Hallucinations can seize control of your thoughts altogether, and more or less anyone is susceptible to them!

Point is, at any given time, their is more than just your consciousness that is governing your thoughts.
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Posted 2006-11-27, 10:11 AM in reply to Demosthenes's post starting "I am in no way trying to say that human..."
I think I've found your whole quota of typo's for the year: "harmones". !

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Methinks that hotdog was trying to imply that you've been sleeping around - ie allowing your"perverted thoughts" to get the better of you and drive you to bed someone... or wall them, couch them, bonnet them, whatever floats your boat.

He takes you to be much older than you are.

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And on the subject of teenage hormones:

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Posted 2006-11-27, 05:54 PM in reply to Lenny's post starting "I think I've found your whole quota of..."
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I think I've found your whole quota of typo's for the year: "harmones". !
Heh. I can't believe I did that. In my defense, it was late at night.
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