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Posted 2006-06-15, 08:17 AM in reply to Jessifer's post starting "In the end what it comes down to for..."
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And for those who do find their truth? They're usually pigheaded, close-minded and refuse to believe anything other than what they believe in. It's pointless to argue really, no one ever shifts from what they believe, and that's usually the reason I never debate about religion to begin with.
That's a very good point. I'll be the first to admit that I rarely take onboard other views, and this thread and other's give evidence that other people don't either.

But it's what make arguments and deabtes and whatnot, fun! Don't you agree? It's better than arguing against a "Yes-Man", for a start.
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Posted 2006-06-15, 08:39 AM in reply to Lenny's post starting "That's a very good point. I'll be the..."
further on Pentecost in general.

This day was very important, Pentecost was the third great Israelite feast mentioned in Lev 23. It was a harvest fest 50 days after the passover week. This actual pentecost , was greater then all others. The Old testament pentecost occured 50 days after Israel left egypt and the passover lamb was slain. New Testament Pentecost occured 50 days after the Lamb of God Jesus was slain. Old testament pentecost celebrated the birth of the nation Israel. New Testament pentecost celebrated the birth of the church of Christ. Old testament pentecost wittnessed the slaying of some 3,000 souls. New testament Pentecost wittnessed the SAVING of some 3,000 souls. The former pointed to the later which is the case of the bible.

The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed, and the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed!
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Posted 2006-06-15, 09:08 AM in reply to ~JESUS~'s post starting "further on Pentecost in general. ..."
Couple of points...

1. ~JESUS~ if you don't stop simply copying and pasting or linking rebuttals, no matter how applicable, people are going to stop reading them and thus stop caring. Whether or not your sources are right, we're not having a research-off. We're having a debate. State your understanding and interpretation of an idea and then give your references if you want.

2. As I've read, society, as a whole, did not think the earth was round before Columbus sailed. The general consensus was inaccurate, in that they underestimated the size of the planet, but they did not believe that a person would simply fall off at the edge as dramatized in cartoons.

3. Stop responding to your own posts or to previous posts multiple times. If you can't find the edit button, then I can't imagine how you're putting forth complex and seemingly intelligent responses in a debate about the beginning of existence.

Additionally, ~JESUS~, people want to know how old you are because it is appliable to the points you are making. The life experiences you've had and the time you've been here supposedly indicate levels of intelligence. I don't believe the two are necessarily linked, thus, if I would reccomend that, if you don't want to be ridiculed for whatever age you are, you keep it secret.
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