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Posted 2006-06-14, 09:43 PM in reply to frosted_snow's post starting "LOL!There is a GOOD reason why that..."
All of creationism is completly based on faith. And thats exactly how the higher powers want it, so you don't question it, so your docile, so you do as commanded. If you get into heaven by believing then you won't have any reasons to question, you won't have to ask for proof.
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Posted 2006-06-14, 10:41 PM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "All of creationism is completly based..."
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All of creationism is completly based on faith.
Not so.If you would watch the actual studies and videos, you would see that creation is actually science.
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And thats exactly how the higher powers want it, so you don't question it, so your docile, so you do as commanded.
You got that a little backwards.It was Scientists and crazy politicians who put evolution into textbooks and tried to say it was fact(ALL LIES) when it is a COMPLETE unproven theory with science added.
Watch the WHOLE video of "Lies In The Textbooks" here.
http://www.drdino.com/downloads.php
You might find it a bit interesting.
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If you get into heaven by believing then you won't have any reasons to question, you won't have to ask for proof.
It does take beleiving(and repentence, baptism, holy ghost) to make it to heaven, true.However, I am not asking proof, but merely agreeing and spreading the proof given.This way, those who do not beleive, may one day beleive.
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Posted 2006-06-14, 10:49 PM in reply to frosted_snow's post starting "Not so.If you would watch the actual..."
Im not watching any of your propaganda. I don't need any other information or people to tell me that life is this way or that way. I think on my own and come to my own conclusions.
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Posted 2006-06-14, 10:56 PM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "Im not watching any of your propaganda...."
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Im not watching any of your propaganda. I don't need any other information or people to tell me that life is this way or that way. I think on my own and come to my own conclusions.
I am not gonna try and force any kind of beleife on you, religious or scientific.I am just letting a door be open to you, if you choose to take it, lovely, if not, that's all up to you.Do as you wish.
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Posted 2006-06-14, 11:33 PM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "Im not watching any of your propaganda...."
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Im not watching any of your propaganda. I don't need any other information or people to tell me that life is this way or that way. I think on my own and come to my own conclusions.
Thats easy when THE CHOICES COME FROM ONE SIDE ONLY!

Frosted is right. Your "conclusion" is backwards.

Ask yourself a question, if you "think on your own" like frosted does, then why wont you open your mind to all the facts and information out there? I mean, do you realize how very fortunate you are to even be able to? TAKE ADVANTAGE BROTHER!!!!
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Posted 2006-06-14, 11:52 PM in reply to ~JESUS~'s post starting "Thats easy when THE CHOICES COME FROM..."
The Earth has been around for a very long time. 4.5-5 billion years. In that time, the very solar system itself has rotated around the galactic center many times. There are so many cosmic events that could have happened that may have caused the creation of Polonium. Maybe there was a MASSIVE solar flare in the early days of earth that caused all this, or maybe we were too close when a supernova went off and we got shot in the face with a galactic shotgun of high energy particles. Who knows?

Just because science has yet to or can't explain why those halo's are there, doesn't mean that God created everything in an instant. Humans still insisted that the Earth was FLAT until some schmuck had to take a boat and sail across the ocean to show us otherwise.

I don't think I have any right to claim to know how the universe was created, how life came around, or what happens when we die. I don't think anyone does. What we all have are our very own personal theories on everything that should be kept to ourselves until the human society as a whole has evolved enough to stop trying to shove THEIR opinions down others throats.

We're probably all wrong anyway.

Btw, moved to Opinion and Debate.
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Posted 2006-06-15, 12:08 AM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "The Earth has been around for a very..."
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Just because science has yet to or can't explain why those halo's are there, doesn't mean that God created everything in an instant. Humans still insisted that the Earth was FLAT until some schmuck had to take a boat and sail across the ocean to show us otherwise.
God didn't do it in an instant, he took 6 days and did it.what is funny is that the BIBLE says the earth was round and it was written years before columbus ever whent.
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I don't think I have any right to claim to know how the universe was created, how life came around, or what happens when we die. I don't think anyone does. What we all have are our very own personal theories on everything that should be kept to ourselves until the human society as a whole has evolved enough to stop trying to shove THEIR opinions down others throats.
What we are trying to say is that Evolution should not be put into text books unless creation is.This way we all get a fair chance to have our beleifs noted.Sure, if they whant to have evolution in their text books,fine,but why not something that was proven even moreso then evolution.It isn't fair that we had to sit through school and listen to the teachers bash our beleifs, call us a supreme monkey, then tell us we came from a goop that was created by some weird rain that hit a certain rock(Evolution), ect. while we sit there and keep our cool.What even worse is that whenever we say something about it, we get brought to court and sued for some wacked out can't spread BIBLICAL truth law.I say if they can have a Non-Proven Theory in textbooks, then they can have a PROVEN source (Creation) in textbooks as well.And I state again, THE BIBLE HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN WRONG.It is 100% accurate in all scientific studies.
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Posted 2006-06-15, 12:16 AM in reply to frosted_snow's post starting "God didn't do it in an instant, he took..."
~Jesus~ said:
The Earth, granite and Polonium were created by God together in an instant.
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God didn't do it in an instant, he took 6 days and did it.
Make up your mind.

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what is funny is that the BIBLE says the earth was round and it was written years before columbus ever whent.
And I have a high school textbook that states the universe is shaped like a sphere that is expanding at a idenical speed in all directions. If future science prooves that true will my text book be the spawn of a new religion? Not really trying to poke fun but that's the only comparison I could think of at this hour. It's interesting that it was stated, yes, but I think it was by mere luck more then anything.

EDIT: And I'm off to bed. Happy debating!

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Posted 2006-06-15, 12:23 AM in reply to frosted_snow's post starting "God didn't do it in an instant, he took..."
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God didn't do it in an instant, he took 6 days and did it.what is funny is that the BIBLE says the earth was round and it was written years before columbus ever went.
Thats right! amongst other things..check out JOB!

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What we are trying to say is that Evolution should not be put into text books unless creation is.This way we all get a fair chance to have our beleifs noted.
Exactly!

If you are gonna teach biology, teach biology, you can without going into orgins. if you are gonna teach theories of orgins, call them what they are, not factual science..it confuses people for the worse! give them the truth!!!..let them take it from there as God intended.

when a group controls all the information sources and further, LIEs about that information, well that means that there is a motive. ...and believe me, your BEST interest is not it!

Recent studies show that over have of the people today still beklieve and support creation by God!
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Posted 2006-06-15, 12:14 AM in reply to Sovereign's post starting "The Earth has been around for a very..."
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Who knows?
god knows.

..and you can too..if you really want to!

read these pages...
http://www.creationscience.com/onlin...lSciences.html

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Just because science has yet to or can't explain why those halo's are there, doesn't mean that God created everything in an instant. Humans still insisted that the Earth was FLAT until some schmuck had to take a boat and sail across the ocean to show us otherwise.
no actualy ,the bible says its round..you just have to know where to look!

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I don't think I have any right to claim to know how the universe was created, how life came around, or what happens when we die. I don't think anyone does.
sure you do, you are special man. feerfully and wonderfully made! thats why you were made, and have the ability to choose. ...and to observe and ponder and give praise to the creator!!! nothing else can, the world and stars and heavens were created just for you!!!!
God gave you the answers man cannot explain! What a gift!

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What we all have are our very own personal theories on everything that should be kept to ourselves until the human society as a whole has evolved enough to stop trying to shove THEIR opinions down others throats.
Its easier for some more than others. Facts are facts and opinions and lies are another...

the truth IS obviously out there...and it will make you free! imagine...

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