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Posted 2004-07-28, 12:03 AM in reply to Slim's post "Straight from Grav. Zelaron Improvements"
Allright Raziel, I will try to proviede examples of each.

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Moderators are not better than Members.
(Special treatment and double standards)
I know this one has been said countless times, but the comparison between D3V's situation and Sovereign's situation has been made. Titus has attempted to justify D3V's banning with his 5 user notes, but I'm not buying it. D3V has been banned on multiple occasions, and many times, I have looked back in disgust and said to myself "What the fuck are they doing." Me and D3V have had our differences, but even then I believed that how he was being treated wasn't right. But I'm going off on tangents. My point is, that it is a known fact that many people don't like D3V. Is it also coincidental that D3V has been banned multiple times? I haven't seen him do too much wrong as of late.

Another example: I remember a new member came in trolling the forum with a perverted picture of a horses head up a girl's pussy. I assumed that Sovereign was going to ban, or warn the newbie, but on the contrary, he started trolling with that same picture. Given, he took it down after a while, but for around half an hour I couldn't go into a thread without puking all over my keyboard. What were his reprecussions for this? Nothing.

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Stop being so damn controlling.
(People want to say what they want, when they want)
This seems to be brought up here at Zelaron every few months. Lately, it is true, some of the mods have been disgustingly controlling. Especially as of late. When we make a thread, we generally don't want it closed or trashed.

I can't cite too many particular examples here, because I simply can not remember them.

One example, though, would be when Penguin and Sov were babbling over that stupid picture. I make a thread so they can go to argue there, and not clutter the Operation Dumbo Drop thread. I thought that would perhaps save the Operation Dumbo Drop thread. Instead of being thanked for reminding them to not clutter a thread, I got a snide remark from Sovereign about how he doesn't need to be told where to argue, and my thread was promptly deleted. After that, Sovereign and Penguin continued to argue in the ODD thread.

Another example is the Bob-D3V scenario. D3V's comments, though they might have been unethical, were not against any rule, whether bob told him to remove the comments or not. All of these comments were deleted. That's what I mean by too controlling.

And this is a recurring problem. It happens every few months. It happend back when Kuja tried to post that anti-christian thread. Unethical, yes. Against the rules, no. This is another example when the mods have been too controlling, and have abused their power.

It happend a few months before that as well. Recall when Titus was trying to lock down on the rules in the chat forum. Titus, and the new rules were met with resentment.

While the staff may not recognize these as valid examples of being "too controlling," I believe them to be. Now apparently this is all going to change, according to the staff, but here are some of the examples you asked for.

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Insulting is fun, so deal with it.
(Moving shit to the flame forum if it contains anything more negative than a proton)
We already have the staff's word that this will be dealt with more appropriately, so I feel no need to expand here.
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