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Posted 2004-03-29, 03:27 AM in reply to Raziel's post starting "Oh my God, for the love of Christ, stop..."
AND FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST READ WHAT I FUCKING SAID... all the things you pointed out was story development... I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OF A STORY... I am talking about the character

You have to be the most bitchy person on zelaron... you get all technical with everything... you spelt this wrong, rpg is this, blah blah blah. Can you sit for one second and relize this. Its hard to read what you say when you take 1 sentence and go on about it. I pretty much agree with you first post.

Now, if I have spelt anything wrong or any grammer is wrong... keep it to yourself cuz I really dont give a fuck.

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Posted 2004-03-29, 04:46 AM in reply to Acer's post starting "AND FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST READ WHAT I..."
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Raz, you're saying Pre-console RPGs have different rules than console RPGs? That's like saying turkey on a turkey sandwich is different from turkey in gravy. ITS ALL STILL TURKEY BITCH.
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Posted 2004-03-29, 05:07 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Spelled* Raz, you're saying..."
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Raz, you're saying Pre-console RPGs have different rules than console RPGs? That's like saying turkey on a turkey sandwich is different from turkey in gravy. ITS ALL STILL TURKEY BITCH.
There's a monstrous difference between a pencil and paper RPG and a console RPG, mainly because P&P RPGs are completely open-ended. You are free to create and do whatever the hell you want, even break the rules. You are not restricted, and as such, the game allows you to actually role play your created character.

Console RPgs are a compeltely different thing. You are 100% confined by the rules of the game's design, you don't create your own character, you make a minimal number of intereactive plot-affecting decisions and you progress through a generally set-in-stone plot. Because of this, the term "role-playing" does not work within the confines of a video game. Therefore, using the term "Role Playing Game" in conjunction with a video game means that you have to attach different attributes to said term. Simply "playing the role" of the lead character in a video game does not make it an RPG. You do that in all video games. An RPG in the video game sense has a different definition than a role-playing game in the originally intended paper and pencil sense.

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AND FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST READ WHAT I FUCKING SAID... all the things you pointed out was story development... I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OF A STORY... I am talking about the character
Solid Snake's character develops throughout Metal Gear Solid. MGS is not an RPG.

Jade's character develops throughout Beyond Good & Evil. BG&E is not an RPG.

Dante's character develops throughout Devil May Cry. DMC is not an RPG.

Acer said:
You have to be the most bitchy person on zelaron... you get all technical with everything... you spelt this wrong, rpg is this, blah blah blah. Can you sit for one second and relize this. Its hard to read what you say when you take 1 sentence and go on about it. I pretty much agree with you first post.
Acer, if it's so fucking hard to follow what I'm saying, why the hell do you keep responding? I'm not going to dumb my posts down just so your shriveled brain can play catch up. If you can't follow what I'm saying, stop arguing with me.

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Now, if I have spelt anything wrong or any grammer is wrong... keep it to yourself cuz I really dont give a fuck.
When, at any point in time, have I gotten on your ass about grammar? Hm? Have I done it at all in this thread? In any thread prior to this? No. So stop your goddamned bitching.
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Posted 2004-03-29, 08:04 AM in reply to Raziel's post starting "There's a monstrous difference between..."
Actually, I consider BG&E to be an action RPG. It's about as much of an RPG as Diablo.

True, it doesn't follow the rules you mentioned and is mostly an action game, but it does slant a bit towards RPGs in game style.

"I'm, I'm attacking the darkness!"

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Posted 2004-03-29, 11:07 AM in reply to Rurouni Storm's post starting "Actually, I consider BG&E to be an..."
I read the first 3 pages, this is what an rpg is.
An rpg is a game where you are in control of your character(s) life and abilities, such as the sphere grid in ff10 or the skill tree in daiblo 2. If you can fully customize your character in a way that is unique to yourself it is an RPG. There should also be character progression in an RPG.
If there is no customization (Zelda) then its not an RPG.
If there is no way to change what happens by the path you choose for your character, its not an rpg. (I mean like, if you don’t put points into strength in daiblo, you wont be able to use better armor and high strength wepons.)
If a role playing game is where you played the role of someone, almost any game would be a role playing game. Role playing games in my opinion should take more than 20 hours to beat.
(just my opinions)
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Posted 2004-03-29, 11:34 PM in reply to Raziel's post starting "There's a monstrous difference between..."
Not hard to follow what you saying... just annoying and a waste of time to read a post 20x longer than it should be. Tho I most likely have to read it because it might say something that would change my reply. You might state something I am going to say etc... understand my point?

You don't need to dumb what you say down for anyone... I just find no reason to be so complex and detailed on a fucking forum. I mean, if you were telling a story... go ahead.

!King_Amazon! I seen something like that coming lol. Did I spell coming right?
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Posted 2004-03-30, 07:36 AM in reply to Acer's post starting "Not hard to follow what you saying......"
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I'm tired of debating. Let's all eat pie and play D&D.
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Posted 2004-03-31, 01:03 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Saw* I'm tired of debating. Let's..."
HEHE I love D&D, me and MarkiX play it a lot, he is right about how you can bend/break the rules and the game is unlimited. That is why I love playing it.
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Posted 2004-03-31, 01:43 AM in reply to Acer's post starting "HEHE I love D&D, me and MarkiX play it..."
That's also why it's a role-playing game.
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