What can I do?

#1 i am not a pansy #2 i would make friends if i was not socially incompetant i say the right things most the time but the tone of voice and facial expressions fuck it up second of all if u are a goth how do girls find u interesting i almost became i goth and things got worse. oh and Acer so many ppl say that the best thing to do is not take your advice so that is one reason i dont do it. there is dustin trying to make himself seem like someone to envy I do wann be helped why do u think i posted the thread moron!Acer is a personal friend of mine and he is the only one whoever spoke to me about it i dont like his advice thats why i am asing diff opinions. fuck u bitch. I posted this thread so i could get positive feedback on my problems and u put me down. You no what i am not a goth but i have a gun and if i saw u in my face today i would kill your cock suckin ass.

there he goes being cocky again... I tell him in a joke way to talk to a girl and my cousin jokes and says dont listen to him... then he takes that the wrong way...

mark fuck off then, you cant take advice and you just bitch... nothing can be done for you then

Dont take my advice? Brett did and look at him, and many other people have... but no no your do proud to take advice from me. Someone to envy? You only said that because of what I told you yesterday, come up with your own conclusions and not use what I say dipship. I swear to god you need to stop talking shit behind a computer and say it to my face. That right there makes you a bitch and no one likes bitches

Moved to the Flame Forum.

Shinto, you're really the last person I would ever want any help from, you're more fucked up than anyone here I know of.

Anyway, just try talking to some people man, act like there is no tomorrow.

Stand up on a table in the cafateria, and cut your wrists and bleed all over shit!! Dude... everyone will think you are the BIGGEST BAD ASS EVER!!!!!

All joking aside... I am very well liked at my school, except by the real hard ass kids that think they are better than others... The only real reason for this is I am a nice guy, I am considered very funny, and just do shit that makes people crack up and feel comfortable with the way they are around me. I don't try to be that way... I just am. It isn't like I am some huge buff guy that wows people with looks... I just have a huge rep at my school for being a certain way... you can't just expect to make overnight transitions like that... what I reccomend is just getting together with a group of friends that you really like (guys and girls) and just hang out with them.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING is to SOCIALIZE. Go to parties, and what not, Get off your ass dude... seriously... its not others people's fault... it isn't THEIR job to cater to your desires. If you want something YOU have to make it happen. You can't feel sorry for yourself, but however, never forget to stand up for yourself.

It matters not whether you win or lose; what matters is whether I win or lose.

Mark don't be a closed in hardass.

Shinto, you're really the last person I would ever want any help from, you're more fucked up than anyone here I know of. Anyway, just try talking to some people man, act like there is no tomorrow.

Thats what I say... what do you got to loose and such.

Go talk to that girl I say, nah she will just laugh at me... I dont honestly think she would atleast to his face

Honestly, if she rejects you, what's the big deal? Go on to the next one and forget the bitch.

Tsk Tsk Tsk... you still have no clue about anything.

I think he thinks im using him for a good laugh... if only he knew. I see him get depressed, and when everyone else would get fed up with him I don't. I see that he is suffering and I try to help him. Introduce him to my friends, try to get him to do something like work out(he says it wont matter) but it will you all would agree. If you get a nice body women will notice. I tell him to join something, like work out now and join wrestling so he can meet people. All he does is sit around felling like shit, and then trying to make people pitty him(sadly I do). He says there are things wrong with him and uses that as a reason. I tell him, you can use that as an excuse, everyone has things wrong with them and they just deal with it. I know why he uses the excuse, its so when something goes wrong, he can just blame it on that and make himself feel better, truely understandable but not the right thing.

Its my turn to ask "what can I do" to get him to see how it really is and that I am trying to help.

I think he thinks im using him for a good laugh... if only he knew. I see him get depressed, and when everyone else would get fed up with him I don't. I see that he is suffering and I try to help him. Introduce him to my friends, try to get him to do something like work out(he says it wont matter) but it will you all would agree. If you get a nice body women will notice. I tell him to join something, like work out now and join wrestling so he can meet people. All he does is sit around felling like shit, and then trying to make people pitty him(sadly I do). He says there are things wrong with him and uses that as a reason. I tell him, you can use that as an excuse, everyone has things wrong with them and they just deal with it. I know why he uses the excuse, its so when something goes wrong, he can just blame it on that and make himself feel better, truely understandable but not the right thing. Its my turn to ask "what can I do" to get him to see how it really is and that I am trying to help.

the question asked by Acer was "what does he have to lose"

DIGNITY

Yes i am a loser w/ no life but i still have it. And the problems i have are not just everyday problems. I have to go to special programs for special purposes and see special people. i have ADHD (almost losing the H), minor dilexia, minor autism, asbergers syndrome, listening disablilities. Yes i notice i have minor in there a lot but a lot of minors build up to a severe. And Penny Bags i would get up off my ass if i could have a decent first impression on ppl. Acer women dont just care bout how u look they care bout personality unlike most guys at first. Would any of you date a woman who looks very hot but is weird, cant listen for shit, and has a short fuse? I dont really try to get ppl to pity me but i do admit it makes me feel better.

Ok this thread is starting to get whiny on my part i will try to stop posting in this thread.

the question asked by Acer was "what does he have to lose" DIGNITY Yes i am a loser w/ no life but i still have it. And the problems i have are not just everyday problems. I have to go to special programs for special purposes and see special people. i have ADHD (almost losing the H), minor dilexia, minor autism, asbergers syndrome, listening disablilities. Yes i notice i have minor in there a lot but a lot of minors build up to a severe. And Penny Bags i would get up off my ass if i could have a decent first impression on ppl. Acer women dont just care bout how u look they care bout personality unlike most guys at first. Would any of you date a woman who looks very hot but is weird, cant listen for shit, and has a short fuse? I dont really try to get ppl to pity me but i do admit it makes me feel better. Ok this thread is starting to get whiny on my part i will try to stop posting in this thread.

You have a case of bullshit, you are fine... you just make yourself think that you are different

You have a case of bullshit, you are fine... you just make yourself think that you are different

uhhh no my doc said i did have those things and so does my ESE specialist and my parents.

Come on man, I'm fucking bipolar. Do you think that helps when I'm meeting people? I don't just sit here whining because of it, I go out and meet people anyway. If one person doesn't want to be your friend, there are plenty of others who will.

Man, what the hell is wrong with you Mark? You don't need a friend man, you need a fucking drill sergeant to instill some confidence in yourself. I don't know what you think you will accomplish by posting this question here? I don't know how much someone could help you over the internet. All I can see is that you are deffinetly lacking some confidence. The world isn't a Britney Spears song where life is all peachy all the time. Life sucks ass. People are not going to bend over backwards for you while you take your time working things out. If you want to make friends you have to go out and do something about it, not the other way around. I'm not going to sit here and sympathize with you. If my post pisses you off, so be it, but I am going to tell it how I see it. (I don't know you that well, but I will tell you from what I have read here.)

First of all you must quit bitching about all these disabilities. Nobody is going to want to be your friend if you are stuck wallowing in your own self-pity because you have some disability. Hell, I have ADHD myself, but I don't use it as an excuse, and I still have a nice group of friends. It's not anything really. It's an excuse for lazy people who can't get there act together. It's a way to get labeled, nothing else. From what I see on this board you are not an idiot, no matter what "handicaps" you have, so don't be so concerned about people not liking you and just be yourself. Either way don't go around telling people this shit about your "handicaps", or trying to create pity for yourself. People want a friend who is somewhat sure about himself, so have some confidence in yourself and don't act like you are so worthless. From what I have seen in this thread, I wouldn't want to be your friend either if you were like this in reality.

A lot of people think of themselves as better then everyone else. I don't know if this is you or not, but if you want to make friends you can not have that type of attitude.

And when you say you want some friends, what exactly do you mean by that? Are you talking about people like acquaintances whom you could go out and party with, or are you talking about people you can actually be close friends with?

If you want some people to party with then you need to be a lot more confident. You need to go initiate conversations with people instead of being a pussy and waiting for people to come and talk to you because you don't like some minor detail about yourself. Most probably people won't even give a fuck unless you make a big deal out of it. Unless you are considered one of the "cool people" nobody is going to come and talk to you first. You must take the initiative. And as it was stated before, once you get to know a few people, find out who their friends are and talk to them. That is how you get to know people.

If you want to make close friends you have to pick carefully. First find some people to hang with. Find the person you like best and gradually increase the time that you hang out with them. Slowly you will either start trusting them and consider them a really close friend, or you will decide that you need to find someone else to hang out with. These people will not care about superficial qualities eventually, so you don't even need to worry about that. Again, don't make a big deal out of things you don't like about yourself.

If you don't like acer (sorry acer, nothing against you, im just using it as an example cause Mark has been bitching at you in this thread) then fuck him, or anyone else you don't like. Go find some other group to hang out with, but don't come back and bitch at Acer for not treating you right. He is not supposed to hold your hand like a baby.

And anyway, it seems to me as if Acer has introduced you to his group and that you are the one declining their friendship. Friends rag on eachother all the time, why are you being such a pussy about it? (if it is how Acer has described it) You are seventeen years old, you should know that by now. Acer seems to be trying to help you, I don't understand why you are bitching at him, or Shinto for that matter. What the fuck is wrong with you man? Here he is trying to help you and then you go off on him? How in the world are you going to make friends like that? If you are going to be picky at who you are going to hang with then you can screw socializing for a while. It's going to take some time to find some people.

Thats about all I have to say for now. I don't know you to well, so I don't know how accurate this is or how much this helps, but to summarize, you basically need to be a hell of a lot more confident, perhaps change your outlook on how you look at people, and take the initiative. That should at least help you starting off.

This thread makes me realize how great I really am.

well...at first i thought this thread was completely pointless...but now i see that it helps grav out so its all good...

Man, what the hell is wrong with you Mark? You don't need a friend man, you need a fucking drill sergeant to instill some confidence in yourself. I don't know what you think you will accomplish by posting this question here? I don't know how much someone could help you over the internet. All I can see is that you are deffinetly lacking some confidence. The world isn't a Britney Spears song where life is all peachy all the time. Life sucks ass. People are not going to bend over backwards for you while you take your time working things out. If you want to make friends you have to go out and do something about it, not the other way around. I'm not going to sit here and sympathize with you. If my post pisses you off, so be it, but I am going to tell it how I see it. (I don't know you that well, but I will tell you from what I have read here.) First of all you must quit bitching about all these disabilities. Nobody is going to want to be your friend if you are stuck wallowing in your own self-pity because you have some disability. Hell, I have ADHD myself, but I don't use it as an excuse, and I still have a nice group of friends. It's not anything really. It's an excuse for lazy people who can't get there act together. It's a way to get labeled, nothing else. From what I see on this board you are not an idiot, no matter what "handicaps" you have, so don't be so concerned about people not liking you and just be yourself. Either way don't go around telling people this shit about your "handicaps", or trying to create pity for yourself. People want a friend who is somewhat sure about himself, so have some confidence in yourself and don't act like you are so worthless. From what I have seen in this thread, I wouldn't want to be your friend either if you were like this in reality. A lot of people think of themselves as better then everyone else. I don't know if this is you or not, but if you want to make friends you can not have that type of attitude. And when you say you want some friends, what exactly do you mean by that? Are you talking about people like acquaintances whom you could go out and party with, or are you talking about people you can actually be close friends with? If you want some people to party with then you need to be a lot more confident. You need to go initiate conversations with people instead of being a pussy and waiting for people to come and talk to you because you don't like some minor detail about yourself. Most probably people won't even give a fuck unless you make a big deal out of it. Unless you are considered one of the "cool people" nobody is going to come and talk to you first. You must take the initiative. And as it was stated before, once you get to know a few people, find out who their friends are and talk to them. That is how you get to know people. If you want to make close friends you have to pick carefully. First find some people to hang with. Find the person you like best and gradually increase the time that you hang out with them. Slowly you will either start trusting them and consider them a really close friend, or you will decide that you need to find someone else to hang out with. These people will not care about superficial qualities eventually, so you don't even need to worry about that. Again, don't make a big deal out of things you don't like about yourself. If you don't like acer (sorry acer, nothing against you, im just using it as an example cause Mark has been bitching at you in this thread) then fuck him, or anyone else you don't like. Go find some other group to hang out with, but don't come back and bitch at Acer for not treating you right. He is not supposed to hold your hand like a baby. And anyway, it seems to me as if Acer has introduced you to his group and that you are the one declining their friendship. Friends rag on eachother all the time, why are you being such a pussy about it? (if it is how Acer has described it) You are seventeen years old, you should know that by now. Acer seems to be trying to help you, I don't understand why you are bitching at him, or Shinto for that matter. What the fuck is wrong with you man? Here he is trying to help you and then you go off on him? How in the world are you going to make friends like that? If you are going to be picky at who you are going to hang with then you can screw socializing for a while. It's going to take some time to find some people. Thats about all I have to say for now. I don't know you to well, so I don't know how accurate this is or how much this helps, but to summarize, you basically need to be a hell of a lot more confident, perhaps change your outlook on how you look at people, and take the initiative. That should at least help you starting off.

thinking your better than someone else shouldnt go into your attitude, cocky bitches get their ass kicked

I don't think he meant it that way, Acer. He's saying you need to be confident in any relationship and in life. And, he's right. If I wasn't confident in what I could do, I wouldn't have the beautiful GF that I do now.