bob...i haven't read everything u said yet...ill go through them and get back 2 u. Doofus...i read a few places where it said civilian casualties were 150000+...if ill c if i can find it again...maybe i have incorrect info...i dunno...it's not that i dont support the US...as arachdenome has put it...i just dont support war and i wish there was a simpler way 2 do this.