Death Toll Passes 1000 ....

The example with china is a WHOLE different story, it has nothing to do with what's going on.What's happening here is, there are multiple reasons to get saddam out of power, 1. the fact that he kills thousands of innocent people for no reason. 2. he wouldn't let us inspect. 3. we DID find traces of what could be used for wmd's. and the thing with china is that, we have a good economy, our leader doesn't kill his own people, and they would have no reason to "liberate" us.

1.) We have killed between 12000-14000 Iraqi civilians, not to mention their soldiers, and our 1000 soldiers.

2.) Do you honestly think that we would let China inspect our country?

3.) We definitely have WMDs. So? Plus, what are these traces of WMDs you speak of? Is there any hard evidence?

Iraq's economy is in shambles because of the UN. Iraq wasn't allowed to export oil, their major export, until 1999. If I was Saddam, I'd be fucking pissed as well. And even after 1999, they were only allowed to export enough to meet their humanitarian needs.

Our leader doesn't kill his own people? I would consider sending kids into a frivolous war, simply because our leader has a belligerent foreign attitude, killing our own people.

And as for your last point, we had no reason to "liberate" them.

So, now, lets expand on Vollstreckers hypothetical situation. Lets say that the newly founded CCC (Collaboration of Communist Countries) has banned all our major exports, leaving our society and economy in shambles. Now, lets say they come in, and already have indirect power over the entire surrounding region. Furthermore, our pugnacious leader, we'll call him Borge W. Gush, has been sending our troops into war, and getting them all killed. When China asks to inspect our country, we refuse. That, then, gives China the right to attack us, according to your methodology, correct? That gives them the right to "liberate" us, correct? That gives them the right to shove communism down our throats, doing us a favor by helping our struggling economy, correct?

We have done so in the past. You think we let people into OUR shit? We have WMDs out the ass. My point is that the war was all for finding these WMDs Saddam was supposedly hiding away, and there isn't shit (althought I wouldn't be shocked if Bin Laden or WMDs show up just a bit before elections though, I think Bush is that low). Basically, who died and made us God, fit to deal out Punishment and Death as we see fit? We don't even have all of OUR shit together, what gives us the right to go recreating the world in OUR image?

Wow. We made the exact same points, and I hadn't read your post before I wrote mine out.

I'm just that 1337.