Baby Steps

Personally I don't do any drugs such as tobacco, marijuana, acid, ect. I just never found the need to. I do however see points in taking hallucinogens every once in a while (2 times a year) based on what they do for you, and how they break everything down to a very simple level. Anyway, I am not once bit opposed to growing industrial hemp as there are many products that could be made better and more environmentally safe by using hemp instead of some of the other materials. As for the crystals in the plant, who knows what to do with them. I'm not to sure about the medicinal uses but couldn't they use them for that? Or is that something different all together?

EDIT: Also the comment about pot heads being idiots or however you worded it is completely inappropriate. Just because their gpa wasn't higher than 4.0 means nothing. That isn't an accurate display of one's intelligence when you factor in how in most schools homework is a huge chunk of the grade. That might not be the case for your school but I know alot of very intelligent people who didn't get honor roll or high grades just because they didn't feel like doing the homework. That is a different kind of stupid all together though

Well, speaking from someone who lives in a country where weed is legal I can say this. I know lots of people, people who are respected and make €100000+ a year that ocassionally smoke some weed. It's no big deal, IMO alcohol is alot worse than weed. Especially with kids these days, alcohol causes more problems than weed ever will.

Just because it's legal, doesnt mean everyone will freak out and start smoking 24/7. I'm all for legalizing soft-drugs, everywhere.

It's a shame that you have such a low opinion of the smokers, I have a High/higher IQ and I smoke very often... Just in case you didn't notice.. it's not just the blue collar workforce that indulges... It's everyone. I think we smoke because of the work, not work because of the smoke... Anyway, there's no reason to be so negative, otherwise keep that shit to yourself man...

People ussually get in2 smoking because of either drinking or stress.. it lowers blood pressure. i dont give a fuck if people smoke.. they do what they wanna do.

Well, as I said I have no problem with occasional smokers as long as they don't come and bother me with their theory about how sheep are evil animals that are trying to take over our minds as we sleep. If they smoke occasionally, I sort of see that as just an occasional stress reliever, or whatever other reason they would smoke marijuana for.

Actually I was one of those people that never did homework. At some point, however, one must draw a line. I didn't like doing schoolwork anywhere outside of school, so I usually took advantage of classtime, or even while we were studying the current lesson, to do that homework. Homework, by the way, is given for a reason. I don't care how genius you are, if you haven't read Chapter 10, you don't know what's in Chapter 10. I usually just paid attention or what not and got information I needed without having to read(unless it was English or History) then you have to read. Again, I don't care if you're Einstein's reincarnation, you don't know what happened in 1450 unless you read or are told about it. In Math, homework is given so one can practice the types of problems, and if you haven't noticed yet, the problems increase in difficulty in direct relation to the number of the problem.

Anyways, just to set everything straight, in case you aren't a good reader, I'll put it in simple terms here. The people I was attacking are those who smoke marijuana on a regular basis. The people who go home and smoke marijuana every day. Usually these are the same halfwit jackasses who party all high school, and do other drugs to include acid, alcohol, etc... The people who basically throw away their life on drugs. The people and spend time doing drugs that could be spending time improving themselves physically or mentally. Those are the people I was attacking.

This guy's good...

Pr0xy, since when have you been Crim?

It's no big deal, IMO alcohol is alot worse than weed. Especially with kids these days, alcohol causes more problems than weed ever will.

Over here alcohol deaths have rise by 20% in the last 20 years. There are more and more teenagers becoming alcoholics, the majority of which are actually girls. It's got to such a point that people know if you're British when you go on holiday because of the way you get absolutely smashed and then stagger around the resort shouting and singing at th top of your voice. It's embarassing. And unfortunately, it's starting to influence the locals. You now get Spanish kids, Italian kids etc. mimicking the British holiday makers and getting drunk out of their skulls...yet they never manage to replicate the "every Friday night go out, party, get drunk to the edge of death, go home, sleep with your head in the toilet, wake up with a horrible hangover, work it off, and do it again the next Friday" attitude.

As for smoking, we haven't got that big a problem with it over here. I know loads of people who smoke cigarettes (half my form does it... ) which is one thing I hate. I really don't like being around someone who is smoking or smells like it. Yet there are few people I know who smoke drugs.

Don't ask me what sort of relevance this has to the thread...I honestly don't know...

That's sort of true. But I know people who used to smoke everyday and still graduated highschool with ease. There are people who can function just fine while smoking everyday.

That's why I believe that the people you speak of, the ones wasting their lifes on drugs. I think it's not so much caused by the drugs, but much more their attitude towards life. I believe the excessive use of drugs is more a consequence from their attitude, rather than a cause. I think that even if drugs didnt excist, they would still find other ways to throw away their lifes.

I wouldn't doubt it if the gov't legalized pot, it would be monitered like cigs. This in the sense that you can't smoke in public places/ have to be so many feet from buildings(diff for each country/state/province/territory).


That's all I feel like typing at the moment.

That's why I believe that the people you speak of, the ones wasting their lifes on drugs. I think it's not so much caused by the drugs, but much more their attitude towards life. I believe the excessive use of drugs is more a consequence from their attitude, rather than a cause. I think that even if drugs didnt excist, they would still find other ways to throw away their lifes.

Fair enough, you believe in the "early-onset smokers had lower innate cognitive skills before they ever started smoking marijuana" theory. Which more or less states that drugs aren't bad, people are. I believe that, too, but not in all cases. I don't know if marijuana is a Neurotoxin or not, but I prefer not take my chances, when I'm just fine not smoking it anyhow.

Alright, bucko, listen up. 100% stoner here and not ashamed one damn bit. I graduated highschool 25th in my class out of 300. I smoked weed almost every day my senior year and I managed to keep my grades up. I also have a job and I work very hard and often to keep the moolah flowing. I have shit in my life prioritized.

Most of you probably don't realize it because you probably don't smoke weed alone, but if you've ever been around someone who is high when you are not, it's very similar to being around someone who is drunk when you are not. Thay think they've come to realize everything about life in the last hour they have been high.

No, this is not true. Drunk people and high/stoned people do not act the same. A drunk person cannot make out who is who, cannot keep his/her own balance, has a very difficult time speaking (loud, slurred words), CANNOT DRIVE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES and is more then likely going to throw up. A stoned person will sit on a couch and laugh at the drunk people. You need to stop generalizing people who smoke. A stoned person can drive, although I'll admit we tend to go slower. Weed and alcohol are two very different substances and really should not be compared.

You've obviously been hanging out with some new smokers or people that smoke in moderation. People that have been smoking for years (aka stoners) are very laid-back and do not "think we've realized everything when high." I was like the way you're describing when I was a new smoker and I got blitzed every time I took a hit; it's much different now.

What else you gonna dish out?

Pr0xy, since when have you been Crim?

Since Penguin kept forgetting who I was so he changed my name to one he could recognize

Anyone care to inform me on my earlier post? I would like to know.

"As for the crystals in the plant, who knows what to do with them. I'm not to sure about the medicinal uses but couldn't they use them for that? Or is that something different all together?"

You've obviously been hanging out with some new smokers or people that smoke in moderation. People that have been smoking for years (aka stoners) are very laid-back and do not "think we've realized everything when high." I was like the way you're describing when I was a new smoker and I got blitzed every time I took a hit; it's much different now. What else you gonna dish out?

He is in the army, he doesnt hang out with any pot heads, just drunks, and I dont think hes ever hung out with marijuana users in his life, just maybe seen some at his high school when he went.

Basically Smith you need to do a more in depth study, before debating... this is kinda lika a ps3 vs xbox 360 thread where I pmed you and said, "I hate debating with people who wont open their eyes"... now its your turn to open your eyes.

So he's PFC Smith:

Favorite Phrase:
Shut the fuck up with that bullshiiiit! Usually as a reply to PFC Smith...

What does PFC mean? I read Catch-22 again a week ago, and I was trying to work out what PFC meant then. If you haven't read it there's a character called ex-PFC Wintergreen who seems to run everyhting behind the scenes.

As for the PS3 v Xbxo 360 threads (they've both turned into them), you should've just said that, we'd've shut up quicker if you had.

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Pr0xy:

The thing that gets you stoned is the THC, the Crystals that the female produces on the Buds when it flowers, to pick up the male pollen and as the male has no crystals it's not worth the cough.

I also managed to stumble across some kind of pot forum that said if you put the crystals on top of the weed when smoking it, it will heighten the experience. Means absolutely nothing to me, thoug hit probably does to you?

Probably doesn't answer your question, but, nnh, bit of info about the for you if you didn't already know.

So he's PFC Smith: Favorite Phrase: Shut the fuck up with that bullshiiiit! Usually as a reply to PFC Smith... What does PFC mean? I read Catch-22 again a week ago, and I was trying to work out what PFC meant then. If you haven't read it there's a character called ex-PFC Wintergreen who seems to run everyhting behind the scenes. As for the PS3 v Xbxo 360 threads (they've both turned into them), you should've just said that, we'd've shut up quicker if you had. ---------- Pr0xy: I also managed to stumble across some kind of pot forum that said if you put the crystals on top of the weed when smoking it, it will heighten the experience. Means absolutely nothing to me, thoug hit probably does to you? Probably doesn't answer your question, but, nnh, bit of info about the for you if you didn't already know.

Private First Class is what PFC means. And no I didn't know that about smoking them on top. Not sure if I could ever use that information heh... And yeah I realize males hold no crystals however you still need to grow both to keep it prospering... And there is also a large chance that you wont grow just males. Just wondering if the excess crystals from growing hemp had any uses.

So that's what PFC means.

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I don't know much about smoking.

In fact, I know nothing at all.

So that's what PFC means. ---------- I don't know much about smoking. In fact, I know nothing at all.

I just know abit because early this year I played UO with some guys that smoked and one of em was starting to grow it.

"As for the crystals in the plant, who knows what to do with them. I'm not to sure about the medicinal uses but couldn't they use them for that? Or is that something different all together?"

You need a grinder (a device that breaks up your weed so you don't have to) that has a keef collector on bottom. Keef is what those crystals are more commonly called. I'm pretty sure there is no medicinal use in keef, but who could ever know?

And yes, Lenny, if you smoke that stuff you'll be floating in the clouds feelin pretty relaxed.

You need a grinder (a device that breaks up your weed so you don't have to) that has a keef collector on bottom. Keef is what those crystals are more commonly called. I'm pretty sure there is no medicinal use in keef, but who could ever know? And yes, Lenny, if you smoke that stuff you'll be floating in the clouds feelin pretty relaxed.

Ahh I see. Well just gotta find some way to dispose of those crystals without selling.

OH MY GOD. THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD FUCKING SUCKS.

I didn't read the rest. WHY??!??! BECAUSE THE FIRST PAGE IS FULL OF NONSENSICAL BULLSHIT. WHO CARES IF PEOPLE SMOKE WEED. IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS.

Like Adrenachrome said, what are you trying to prove? That you are an asshole (referring to S2 AM)? Why rain on someone's parade? I don't smoke marijauna, but I'm not going to post on an internet forum bashing people that do smoke and call them "idiots". You're the idiot for arguing that.

Sum Yung Guy, you seem to think just because I never smoke marijuana that I was never around people that did. I've been around people in the ARMY that were high, and seasoned smokers, by the way. I lived in the boonies as a child, so I guess I don't have to explain to you that half of my family smokes marijuana. When I moved to the city, I was around my sister and all her friends. On top of that I lived in an apartment complex where practially ever poor person in the city lived. I saw enough of how potheads lived and saw enough people high during my life, to know I didn't want to smoke marijuana.

Just because you haven't shot yourself in the face with a shotgun doesn't mean you can't argue your friend away from the barrel as he's trying to commit suicide.

Just to comment on Thanatos here. You graduated 25/300, huh? I actually attended a much smaller school before I moved to the cities. Seeing as I went to five different schools throughout my life, I think I can safely say that I found smaller schools to usually have a much easier curriculum(usually less funding) with much less people competing for that valedictorian.

Oh ya, and alcohol is a major depressent, on the other hand marijuana is a both a light depressant and a psychoactive hallucinogen. I never said they were exactly the same thing, and that one would incur the same results from both of them. What I did say is that people who do either/or are annoying to be around when you are completely sober. That's from my experience.

Lol pr0xy, and oh ya and it's SPC now, thank you.

Wha?

So you've gone from Private First Class to SPC?

Why all the acronyms? Why?!