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Posted 2004-10-25, 09:57 AM in reply to DamonGalos's post starting "No prob. :-D I had it handy simply..."
zzzzzzz

max skel mastery
max skel warriors
max skel mages
1 revive
1 summon resist
1 bone armor
1 lower resist
--rest nova

enigma
beast
homunculus
shako
maras
marrowalk
trang gloves
wisp
raven
10x summon GC
9x 5resist/20 life
anni

+skills will boost enough, revive reanimated hordes at pindle, they are reanimated in no time and their charge will do insane damage with the revive bonus + HoW + fanat + amp. kills all sorc ez.

revive black souls and go lower resist on everything else. kills ez.

enough str for equip
enough dex for equip, fuck max block, how will melee hit you
none energy
rest vitality (omfg how basic? -.- 2 ez?)

dont fight:
-light sorc
-fireball sorc
-orb sorc
-novanecro
-blizz sorc
-wind druid
-!!!javazon!!!
-rabies druid
-hammahdin

(if player has no sk1llz and is nuubie, ignore what ive posted above about "dont fight", nuubs will reply that wind druids get owned by necros, if so, then u r worst noob evah)

fight:
barbs
4fps fireclaw nuubies
every paladin except hammah
trapsin, if they r nuubie

gl wasting ur time sov
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Posted 2004-10-25, 10:59 AM in reply to ScamAlot's post starting "zzzzzzz max skel mastery max skel..."
Scamalot... u play east nl?Cuz if ur refering to me... id gladly duel you a few times to shut you up... if not, ignore plz...
Anyways... GODLY bonemancers should beat GODLY wind druids for 1 and 1 reason only... at max cast necros are a frame faster...Which means they are faster... anyways.. tell me if u were talking about me scamalot... id love to duel you
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Posted 2004-10-25, 11:22 AM in reply to ScamAlot's post starting "zzzzzzz max skel mastery max skel..."
ScamAlot said:

nuubs will reply that wind druids get owned by necros, if so, then u r worst noob evah)

Interesting take on things and Im not convinced its necessarily true depending on the exact build and gear set ups, but I personally don't feel that one really owns the other when both are in ideal condition.

Anyways, ScamAlot has essentially made a couple changes in Drac's build, substituting poison for bone, mages for bone wall, and deciding to put dex points into more vitality instead. I personally prefer max block just because if I ever teleport onto someone or if for some strange reason someone gets to me I don't want them getting lucky by hitting me once or twice and then I die (along with all my precious hard won minions!) and I'm not convinced the extra 200 life or so is going to make that much of a difference if someone actually is hitting me so I prefer to lessen chances of actually getting hit. Maybe I just suck at using minions but I've always found block to be a good thing and a staple in most guides for a reason unless its supplanted by skills such as the amazon uses (dodge/evade/etc).

As far as poison vs bone goes....that debate goes back to a poisonnova vs a bone necro except its only your secondary skill now instead of a primary. While you should have enough points and +skills to make poison decent, if you don't mind using a bug (which you dont if you use poison anyways), if you use marrowalks I think you consider the advantage of the 33 synergy to bone armor and spirit. With the setups Scam and Drac suggest both use essentially 96-97 skill points (level 85 or so with quests I believe) but while posion nova is certainly easier to hit with, if you decide to pump mages instead of a poison synergy, your damage won't be all that great once you factor in the other guy's resistances even with the poison not being reduced in pvp (and the fact some just think poison is cheesy). If you don't pump mages and/or you don't use marrowwalks you have more of a case for poison I think, though the bone prison/wall does synergize with your ever useful bone armor as well if you choose those routes..

Essentially in my opinion you'll need to decide if you want to max skeletal mages (or revives) or place the points in your offensive casting synergy. If you decide the latter then I think you'll want to make a decision regarding poison nova or bone spirit.
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Posted 2004-10-25, 12:06 PM in reply to DamonGalos's post starting "Interesting take on things and Im not..."
fuck psn dmg, only use 2 lag, the reason to dump rest in it is that teh dmg is a decent bonus and u r have nothing else 2 max anywayz...

GEEkZ readin ur reply makes me feels myself ashamed for being human, teh reaction u r gonna give ("Reading you incorrect grammar and so called "1337" makes me want to die/smash my had through the monitor/cry/other-sucky-comeback) makes me even more ashamed 4 being a human.


btw i was referr0rding 2 j00 time/place/account/game?
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Posted 2004-10-25, 12:55 PM in reply to ScamAlot's post starting "fuck psn dmg, only use 2 lag, the..."
ScamAlot said:
fuck psn dmg, only use 2 lag, the reason to dump rest in it is that teh dmg is a decent bonus and u r have nothing else 2 max anywayz...
Meh. I don't like trying to use it _just_ for the purpose of lag in the event someone happens to have a better connection than I (as no matter how good one's connection is, someone always has a better one) and lag can hurt me as much as anyone else if the desynch goes the wrong way (exception being chargadins deliberate desynch attempt seems to get the better end though just by nature of the attack). Just dumping points into something for the sake of having nothing to raise doesn't make sense to me really as if it was a worthless set of points you could always pump more into revives for the hell of it or summon resist...or hell golem for another minion. No I think its important in a hybrid to have an offensive personal spell 1) to kill those first few monsters to start the minion pool and 2) in case you come up against someone who's wrecking your minions in which case you're in serious trouble but at least you have something to keep them on guard with. I agree its a decent bonus but I believe there's a method to this madness.

Sov when you wake up again let us know what you're thinking other than that a pizza would be good about now.
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Posted 2004-10-26, 12:51 AM in reply to DamonGalos's post starting "Meh. I don't like trying to use it..."
Omg lol scam , u say dont fight hammerdins,lite sorcs,blizz/orb sorcs,rabies,Javazon and nova nec y so noob?
juz Bh has to rip thru all the summons before hitting nec and u hav like 20+summons=20+hammers? for elements revive element immunes based on their class
only thing u cant be immune is from fireball since it has a blast radius but hotspur+nokozan = ~_~
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