The Best Stratagys...

[Dar_Win]

[color=red]the best stratagy for protos is to alie with zerg and have them rush and distract while you come in later with cariers and dark templer and dark archaons for the kill.the best staratagy for zerg is to make a LOT of zerglings and then send in your air bourn stuff(upgrade zerging speed).For terin it is simple all you do is make 2 command sentors,then you make one with a nuke and one with a comsat station make alot of bnkers and siege tanks next to them and have some wraiths cloaked then send in lots of them and LOTS OF CARIERS. (THE CARIERS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.)Also the medics are very important.build some goliaths and take scvs to battle so they can repair your mechanicle things and let the medics get the people like merians and fire bats.

[Medieval Bob]

As Terran, I always built the food cap in marines and rushed. You can do it near the start of map with minimal upgrading.
As Protos, tower rush works really well.
As Zerg.... I always sucked with Zerg.

[Boo~Hoo]

n e w b s.

[Pekson]

Im there with u Boo that strat is newbi
......you should b dead bfore u even get those -.- unless ur playing against another guy who doesnt have any offence.......u probably play 20min nr i presume.......but its still fun when i play those ^-^

[Thanatos]

Originally posted by dar_win
[color=red]the best stratagy for protos is to alie with zerg and have them rush and distract while you come in later with cariers and dark templer and dark archaons for the kill.the best staratagy for zerg is to make a LOT of zerglings and then send in your air bourn stuff(upgrade zerging speed).For terin it is simple all you do is make 2 command sentors,then you make one with a nuke and one with a comsat station make alot of bnkers and siege tanks next to them and have some wraiths cloaked then send in lots of them and LOTS OF CARIERS. (THE CARIERS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.)Also the medics are very important.build some goliaths and take scvs to battle so they can repair your mechanicle things and let the medics get the people like merians and fire bats.

Slaynish's brother?

[Satoshi]

My strategy is going Goliath/Tank while locking them in with bunkers and turrets. Then they cant get out to attack me (I do it 3 min into the game) then I attack through the bases. Sometimes I tank drop 5 min into the game. It works nicely.

~-Tashi

[Strider Fury]

Zealots+Dragoons+Observers rush owns all. cheap and easy to built. no questions about it.

[Thanatos]

Zealots+Dragoons+Observers rush owns all. cheap and easy to built. no questions about it.

How can you rush observers? You need to tech first.

[Strider Fury]

thats a bit later on in the game. once i get more cash.

[HellSlayer]

That rush dont work for me.

[Boo~Hoo]

omg this should be called NOOBISH talk, considering all the NOOBIES here.

[Strider Fury]

I usually just mass Sunken Colonies and keep Hydras on the inside and use them to rush when I get enough of them. mass Ultra+Hyras+Infested Terrans= the most destructive fighting forces in the universe.

[HellSlayer]

Boo-hoo shut the fuck up you bitch

[Jamesadin]

Boo~Hoo calm down, this is open chat, not flame forum.

[Pekson]

Hey Boo i started out as a newb but i can understand where ur coming from.....They will soon learn the ways of the jedi!

[Valmar]

Personally i dont like zerg anymore but the strategy i used to use OWNED ass badly here it is.

Verses Terrans

Usually when your facing a terran player he will go for either Bcs, Wraiths, Tanks+Goliaths.
An easy way to counter the tank+Goliats is to have alot of Ultralisks+Defilers+Lurker the Ultralisk are the things that take the hits for your defiler (Ultralisks when fully upgraded can survive a nuke), while your ultralisks are takin all the hits for your defiler, move the defiler in and cast dark swarm close to the tanks and then move your lurker in and they will rip the tanks to shreads.
As for the wraiths and bcs 2 words Hydra Defiler.
This is for the people who dont like keeping an overlord around with you, whenever you see an invisible unit around you get a defiler to cast plague it is a double edged sword it hurts them and makes them no longer cloaked. Which is effectivly making your defiler a godly detector on account of his plague,dark swarm and the ability to burrow. After your defiler have plagued your enemys move in with another and cast a dark swarm or 2 by the emenys, then move a few hydras under the dark swarm then while the air shit is attack the hydras move in about 5-10 Devourer to amp the hydras dmg and do some decent dmg. With the hydras attacking with the defilers amp dmg on the plague attacking and revealing cloaked units and the defiler doing dmg not much will last to long.

Verses Protoss
Ever play as zerg and come across millions of photon cannons only to get owned before your hydra get there?
Try defiler, use there dark swarm a little before the cannons then move in some lurker and keep a dark swarm on top of them and before you know it there def will be reduced to ruble.
Most tos players use either Goons or Carrier, Both of witch are easily defeted by the zerg. For goons your best bet is to have some hydra defiler and guardians. Use the defiler to cast darkswarm by the goons, then send in your hydra under the swarn while the goons attack the hydras your guardians can be pummeling them from the air. This works equally well verses all races except zerg. But ill get to that later. As for the carrie, 3 units do the job nicely for you, Defiler,Mutalisks,Devourer. The way to kill the carrier is simple, keep a plague on the carrier at ALL times use the devourer to amp dmg the carrier and do a decent bit of damage to them and have the mutalisks come in and finsh the job up rather nicely. (Muts are better in this case for carrier on account of there spread ability)

Verses Zerg
Quite possibly the best thing you can do for zerg vs zerg is have mutalisks and hydras and a few defiler. Zerg usually mass hydras if you come upon this you may be tempted to use your dark swarm but this is a waste and a mistake. The waste is it makes all zerg units under it invincible so it doe nothing and for the waste its a waste of defiler energy, that energy could go to using plague on there units then moving in some hydras and muts and if they look like there getting hurt badly throw in some lurker and some ling, you should win most of the time.

The strategys listed above are very good when using the zerg if you do them fast enough. Good luck and i hope they benefit you as much as they do me.

[EDIT] A note to you that u should keep in mind- Verses all smart zerg players, a zerg player with no defiler is most often a dead zerg player with a bad record on b.net.

[Strider Fury]

I'm not really sure bout your Zerg stratagies there... you can somewhat prevent Defilers if you have some Gardians with upgraded Overlord sight upgrade sprinkled at your base.

[Valmar]

But defilers work just as good and they can damage the units so in my mind there seems to be n0 need for overlords except that they act as supply producers and transport units.

[Strider Fury]

they can find borrowed defilers around your base. they're Zerg's only detector unit. :rolleyes:

[Valmar]

Not true. Defiler is also a detector, the skill plague reveals all invisible units. Also it damages them which makes defiler un-subsititutable in my book.

[Strider Fury]

yes. but my point is that I'm not going to risk my defilers as a main detecter unit. they are expensive. overlords are all around the place so why not use them to counter defliers and other cloaked units?

[Valmar]

Cause i like defilers better and Overlords cant attack and are easily killed, however defilers are harder to kill, if you see hes getting attack get him to cast dark swarm overhimself and get some units to help if you care that much about him dieng.

[Strider Fury]

I perfer to use my mana to cause plague, not waste them on dark swarm. overlords are faster, more health and can fly to places where units can't get him.

[Valmar]

BUT they cant attack and are nto exactly the easiest thing to put into your hotkeys and still be able to own with it. I see where your coming from but we have two diferent opinions which is fine i guess but just dont skimp on the defiler or your gonna have probs vs a skilled player.

[Pekson]

OMEGA is ur strat for 1v1 or 2v2? Defilers are GREAT I MEAN GREAT against 1v1 ZERG VS TERRAN dark swarm and their marines cant hit CRAP! u just get lurks own their arse and hydralisk to go wit dat! CONSUME OWNS JOO! 2v2 dark swarm works well against ranged units but its useless against melee

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[Strider Fury]

I'm not gonna to abandon Defilers completely. God.

[Valmar]

Just i cant stress the fact that defilers are zergs single best unit in my opinion without them could be your defeat and with them you have 75% Chance to win.

[SA-Leaf]

lol silly.

Zerg, Rush them with lings as soon as possible, 12 or so, just to slow them down, then mass Hydras for a while. If there not dead, find out what they are doing, Lets say ther toss, going mass Zeals or dragoons? Go Guards totally. Going air, stick with the Hydras but get some Devourers to back them up, along with some defilers to help out or whatever.

Toss, What can I say soo much to do, Get a few zeals out there to mess with them, Zerg, hell Just go carriers, most people dont realize that a bunch of Devs own, theyd go hydra most likely lol. Not a lot of people do it, But ill be damned if Ive been stomped with my carrier attack, then come back with mass archons, thoes lil buggars are really under used. If you can pull it off go archons and dark temps with maybey some corsair or scout backup. I dont suggest using toss if you wanna rush hardcore =P

Terran, well if you expect carriers, Its all about the goliath BC d. Carriers will get raped, period. If they go zeals, get marines and tanks and medics untill you can get air. Tanks will take out a Defensive player who relies on cannons. Zerg you should try to get you a few marines out fast, and block your main entrance off fairly good just to thwart their early rush that you should be expecting. If you want to finish it quick get seige tanks and marines. take out any sunkens with your tanks and wait for their lings and hydras with your rines, just slowly push on them, remember to keep your marines flowing, and you may want to bring you some medics/scvs to repair your units.

i know im gonna get newb thrown at me for this but oh well =P

[Valmar]

Your arent going to get anything thrown at you, except thanx for sharing your opinions, im sure some will disagree but that doesnt matter at least your trying unlike some.

[Kaneda]

Your all assuming that your enemy is always going to go mass something or another. THe one best way to win a game is by variation. If you ever some of almost everything, and some more of the best units you'll win. Now I'm not saying that you don't know how to use them right...practice makes perfect. Fuck records!

[quikspy67]

Please don't thread dig, thats not cool. (Spam!)

[`Insolence`]

lol silly.

Zerg, Rush them with lings as soon as possible, 12 or so, just to slow them down, then mass Hydras for a while. If there not dead, find out what they are doing, Lets say ther toss, going mass Zeals or dragoons? Go Guards totally. Going air, stick with the Hydras but get some Devourers to back them up, along with some defilers to help out or whatever.

Toss, What can I say soo much to do, Get a few zeals out there to mess with them, Zerg, hell Just go carriers, most people dont realize that a bunch of Devs own, theyd go hydra most likely lol. Not a lot of people do it, But ill be damned if Ive been stomped with my carrier attack, then come back with mass archons, thoes lil buggars are really under used. If you can pull it off go archons and dark temps with maybey some corsair or scout backup. I dont suggest using toss if you wanna rush hardcore =P

Terran, well if you expect carriers, Its all about the goliath BC d. Carriers will get raped, period. If they go zeals, get marines and tanks and medics untill you can get air. Tanks will take out a Defensive player who relies on cannons. Zerg you should try to get you a few marines out fast, and block your main entrance off fairly good just to thwart their early rush that you should be expecting. If you want to finish it quick get seige tanks and marines. take out any sunkens with your tanks and wait for their lings and hydras with your rines, just slowly push on them, remember to keep your marines flowing, and you may want to bring you some medics/scvs to repair your units.

i know im gonna get newb thrown at me for this but oh well =P

K, no good P player goes carriers vs z, im sorry thats just stupid. 1 dark swarm 12 hydras can take down a carrier in seconds.

Ling rushing T? are u INSANE, first off 5 marines at a choke can hold off 12 lings with relative ease.

Vults VS Lots instead of marines.. spider micro > any P attack (except for mass carrier, which is hard to counter)

BTW, The best strats are (for t anyway): mm tank vessel vs zerg, vult goliath tank (metal) and vessels vs P, tanks gols and maybe a vew vults vs t (later game use BCS)

[Pekson]

I thought carriers interceptors werent affected by the dark swarm coz i went full out hydra and dark swarm in a 2v2 match and this guy just went mass cannon and carrier and still killed all my hydra. One bloody long game tho.

I usually do crack ling in 2v2 even if there is a terran ^_^.....most of the time it works bcoz theyre caugt up building too many tanks and golis and forget to build enough M&M and firebats......i swear freakin firebats own i hate them when T build em against my crack ling and dark swarm.

[`Insolence`]

Yeah lings in 2v2 are smart, especially backed up with range.

Darkswarm SHOULD protect against all ranged/air attacks.

[quikspy67]

I use Photon Cannon defence.

[`Insolence`]

Thats entirely, the dumbest strat in the entire game, i hope your joking.

[quikspy67]

Yes very much so joking.

[Bob Blob]

I use the Zerg, then I use just Overlords and Hydralisks. I get my Overlords to lure them away from their base, then attack with my Hydralisks. I always make about a hundred Hydralisks, just to defend my base. If my attacker Hydralisks die, I just get some more, and go attack.

[`Insolence`]

?

You play money maps, right?

[Sovereign]

He had better. Its suicide doing that on low mins and not worrying abotu exping 10 times!

[`Insolence`]

u can make 100 hydras with 1 expo..lol

[Pekson]

U can max the population in like less than 10min ^_^ with one exp.

[`Insolence`]

you cant do that silly, u need expos to get it fast..

[Pekson]

Ye in money maps you can get heapsa expos quik....I still play money maps and own those newbs 2v1 =Þ.