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Posted 2005-04-27, 05:10 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "The fourth dimension is time. Everyone..."
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Posted 2005-04-27, 02:27 PM in reply to Lenny's post starting "Read and weep. ..."
Seriously Shinto, time is unanimously accepted in the Physics world as the fourth dimension.
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Posted 2005-04-27, 02:35 PM in reply to Lenny's post starting "Read and weep. ..."
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Posted 2005-04-27, 02:39 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
In the current world we live in, Length, Width, and Depth are the three spacial dimensions. We are also traveling through time. As I'm typing this, I am traveling through time at a certain speed which I believe is determined by relativity. Not everyone travels through time at the same rate.
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Posted 2005-04-27, 02:41 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
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You're an idiot.
That's an opinion.

Let's see. How many of us saying time is the fourth dimension...against how many of you saying it isn't?? Hmm??
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Posted 2005-04-27, 02:48 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "In the current world we live in,..."
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Posted 2005-04-27, 02:54 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
"Wow. OK, let's go over this. If I want to specify an event, I need 4 numbers: latitude, longitude, altitude, and time. Hence four dimensions. Or look at it this way: An object could hardly exist with width and length but no depth; there would literally be no distance between one side and the other! Nor could something exist with length, width, depth, but no duration. It would pop out of existence the same instant it popped into existence! Hence, four dimensions."

This guy is correct.

Whoever the first guy is is an idiot. What he says doesn't even come close to making sense.

He says you "stop" your particles so they are no longer present. This makes no sense.

Oh, and also, he says time is just a measurement of the velocity of an object through the three real dimensions(length width and height). If this were true, velocity would be measured in seconds, not meters/second. Velocity is measured with a combination of space and time(meters[space]/second[time]).

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Posted 2005-04-27, 02:57 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting ""Wow. OK, let's go over this. If I want..."
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Posted 2005-04-27, 03:00 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
Reread my post, I made an edit.

Let me clarify what the 2nd guy said, since you seem to be too thick to understand it.

If I'm going to meet you somewhere in our dimension, I have to specify a place(which would be through longitude/latitude/altitude) and a time(like 8:30PM or 124235246 seconds from now). If I just tell you WHERE we are going to meet, then you would have no idea WHEN to go there. If I just told you WHEN we are going to meet, then you wouldn't know WHERE we are going to meet.
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Posted 2005-04-27, 03:04 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
Shinto is a fucking moron. We all just need to cope.

His writing is awful, for one thing, and for another.... he gets a fucking boner because he likes to think he has "deep thoughts" what the fuck is it with our new up and coming adolescent elitist pseudo-intellectual society these days? Why is being "deep" so coveted? What the fuck does being "deep" even mean to you? Stop being a flaming jackass. Talking about something that you probably know very little about (this topic) is stupid and boring.

I don't know much about this topic, but what I do know is that you are fucking stupid. It doesn't matter what "number" dimension time is. What's important is that it is obviously a dimension and society found out that it was a dimension after the first three... hence... 4th dimension, dumbass.
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Posted 2005-04-27, 03:11 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Reread my post, I made an edit. Let..."
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Posted 2005-04-27, 03:11 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
According to that link, time is not a dimension because you cannot travel through time, but in reality, we ARE traveling through time. Right now I am traveling through time. I might not be traveling at an abnormal rate, but I'm traveling through time nonetheless.

Traveling backwards through time is not possible, as the previous has already happened, but traveling forward in time is quite possible, as everyone on earth is proving right now. As you travel closer to the speed of light, you travel through time slower, gradually reaching the point where you are no longer traveling through time at all. It's my guess that it is impossible to reach this point, since if you did, you would just be stuck, since if you aren't moving through time, you cannot move through space either. Anyway, the point is, the faster you are traveling through space, the slower you are traveling through time. Back to relativity.
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Posted 2005-04-27, 03:15 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
Dictionary.com's definition of "dimension"

# Physics. A physical property, such as mass, length, time, or a combination thereof, regarded as a fundamental measure or as one of a set of fundamental measures of a physical quantity: Velocity has the dimensions of length divided by time.

A dimension IS a measurement. How do we measure our world? We don't measure it in gallons. Gallons is a dimension, not of our world though. The dimensions of the world we live in are length, width, height, and time.

Just stop arguing this with me. I AM RIGHT.
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Posted 2005-04-27, 03:16 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "According to that link, time is not a..."
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Posted 2005-04-27, 03:22 PM in reply to Penny_Bags's post starting "Shinto is a fucking moron. We all just..."
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Posted 2005-04-27, 03:33 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
Just shut up.
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Posted 2005-04-27, 03:40 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Just shut up."
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Posted 2005-04-27, 04:20 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
Time has a measurement. Just like width, length, and height. Just because you cant see this measurement doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Time is measured in minutes, seconds, hours, years, and so on, just like width is measured in cm's, m's, and km's.

I'll make it simple for you shinto.

www.dictionary.com said:
dimension: A physical property, such as mass, length, time, or a combination thereof, regarded as a fundamental measure or as one of a set of fundamental measures of a physical quantity: Velocity has the dimensions of length divided by time.
www.dictionary.com said:
fundamental: Of or relating to the foundation or base
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foundation: The basis on which a thing stands, is founded, or is supported.
If there wasnt time, the universe would be static, and it would never, EVER change. It is a basis on which things in the universe change.

It IS a dimension.

Crackhead.
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Posted 2005-04-27, 05:38 PM in reply to Shining Knights's post starting "It matters not whether you win or lose;..."
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That also says the same thing as measurements. Lets look at time as a measurement of how many seconds I should go there to see you. This also applies to fallow which "way" to get to you--is not a way a longitude/latitude/altitude be considered a dimension with your thinking. Measurement is part of our way to interpret and comprehend. You can tell me what time to meet you, but without you telling me where then I have no idea where to go either. But the thing is (I do take in your opinion; maybe I'm not catching the whole jest of it. And maybe this will be a debate that can NEVER be settled.), how is this proving that time is a dimension? Because you can also say that measurements should be dimensions. Imagine: Width the 5th dimension.
Rofl. Width is one of the three first dimensions. Traditionally, it's the first dimension. It's not the 5th dimension. You can't imagine it as the 5th dimension, because you can't name 4 others to go before it.

Can we just ban Shinto from saying the words dimension, space, time, and theory?
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