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Posted 2005-09-13, 12:11 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I'd like to see highest def pally as..."
Im assuming Bob was taking into account that the thread title is Highest def on a char. So hes saying the Barb can have the highest possible. Although I would like to see the paladins also. Try and factor in some merc defiance aura next time too.
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Posted 2005-09-13, 06:13 AM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "Im assuming Bob was taking into account..."
thats pretty sick chubbs
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Posted 2005-09-13, 08:37 AM in reply to C3Fable's post starting "thats pretty sick chubbs"
Well, I was working with Barb because that's what was presented.

Barbs have a defense increasing skill in each of their three trees, thus any item that adds +1 to all skills adds 30% enhanced defense. For a paladin, there are only two trees with defense increasing stats. One gives 10%, and the other gives 15% per level.

With a quick inspection... I'd change the shield and helm... eth HoZ with socket... gain +1 to all and +2 combat and add a bit of defense and dex and dex... Helm is eth Andy's Visage with socket... gain +1 to all and some str...

The overall enhanced defense mod would be 1815% over the Barb's 1700% with a bit more base defense... probably around 250 more def...

Let's see... It'd change 156 + 5 + 7.5 + 38.5 + 2.25 + 64 - 1.25 (str penalty) = 272. Then your total would be 4958.25 and the final enhanced defense would be... 95446.3125

That's an estimate, mind you. I think all the basic gear should be the same besides those two items... I took into effect the change of defense, enhanced defense, the extra jewel, the str and dex differences of items and characters, and the different skills of course. If I missed anything, then let me know. Otherwise, that number should hold up.

However... When looking at defiance aura boost from a merc... and I'm assuming the Pally's defiance won't stack with the merc's, the Barb would definately be higher.

A level 55 normal defiance merc has level 18 defiance. +2 skills from the helm, +2 skills from the armor, +4 skills from the weapon (a2 mercs can use spears, right?) = 26 defiance = 320% enhanced defense.

With a perfect merc (which is easy to do) stacked onto a barb's perfect setup, he'd have 99348.5 attacking and 78729 standing defense.

Just in case you're wondering if it's possible to break the 100k mark:

With a perfect barb and a paladin set up for max defiance (+3 circlet, +3 ammy, +1 belt, +2 armor, +2 shield, +4 weapon, +2 rings, +1 anni, +3 torch, +9 gcharms = 30 skills + 1 barb shout = lvl 51 defiance) that's 570% enhanced defense bringing the barb's standing defense to 90444.625 and attacking defense to... *drumroll*

111,064.125
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Posted 2005-09-13, 10:00 AM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Well, I was working with Barb because..."
I wish you could hear me clapping right now.
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Posted 2005-09-14, 02:20 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Well, I was working with Barb because..."
Hay bob you seem like a veteran player
say i had 2530 ar and 998% to ar (from my skills) how do i calculate that:
No one seems to be able to awnser me
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Posted 2005-09-14, 02:27 PM in reply to King Lycaon 101's post starting "Hay bob you seem like a veteran player ..."
Well, I would assume it would be 2350 * 10.98 = actual defense rating.

There are certain modifiers (a certain assassin skill or item or something comes to mind) that apply at a different time than the other modifiers due to reason or bug or whatnot. Those could increase your actual defense rating a lot.
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Posted 2005-09-14, 03:52 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Well, I would assume it would be 2350 *..."
yea but im talking about attack rating
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Posted 2005-09-14, 05:19 PM in reply to King Lycaon 101's post starting "yea but im talking about attack rating"
Oh, I wasn't even paying attention.

Shouldn't be any different, should it? I know the order matters a lot, but I'd have to look it up to know how it's applied.
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Posted 2005-09-14, 10:41 PM in reply to Medieval Bob's post starting "Well, I was working with Barb because..."
MY GOD! No one in the game would have enough AR to take you out. No one whos attacks are based on AR that is. It'd be like a level 10 sorc trying to kill diablo w/ a staff. I'd love to see the best zealer take out a barb w/ over 100k defense! Ah I want to try it so bad.. It wouldnt even be hard to build, both of them would be failry cheap.
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Posted 2005-09-15, 12:52 AM in reply to Kaneda's post starting "MY GOD! No one in the game would have..."
4 eth runes in a weapon
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Posted 2005-09-15, 01:08 AM in reply to Mantralord's post starting "4 eth runes in a weapon"
I think there's a cap on that in PVP.
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Posted 2005-09-15, 02:26 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I think there's a cap on that in PVP."
yep they fucking capped it in 1.10 patch.. bastards ruined the fun in PvP in 1.10..
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