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Posted 2004-06-24, 04:33 PM in reply to HandOfHeaven's post starting "It is a tad expensive for what I have...."
Depending on what items are expensive for you, I would say the charms is what kills most poeple. You can substitute the charms with any +Max Damage/ Ar / Lifers such as GC's 10max/70+ar/35+ life or even Large Charms with 6 max/ar/5 dex. The max/ar/dex setup can get like 100-200 more damage but you loose a good deal of life. As I said, this build is for more veterain players so if you can't afford any of this you will be running into problems.

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Posted 2004-06-25, 11:44 AM in reply to Endurack's post starting "Depending on what items are expensive..."
i have a pretty interesting hybrid zon and she kill alot of people. she uses guided arrow and plague java. some other suggestions for cheaper/different gear that seem to be effective for me anyway are for boots i like to use gore riders for OW, CB, and DS. and if u cant afford a 120/45 helm i would use mav's helm it has decent mods and 30 ias so if u socket it you cant get 45. also just for some more explianation of why lighning bolt is effective is because it always hits unless they are a zon to dodge it or an assassin to block it with weapon block.
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Posted 2004-06-25, 12:18 PM in reply to tidus2005's post starting "i have a pretty interesting hybrid zon..."
Personally i don't care for anythign dealing with poison. Poison is a newb way to win regarless of it being a skill or items. Either way its cheap by letting you run away and drain much like Open Wounds. At least open wounds is a % and has a stopping point and is based on level. I have seen like 30,000 PD damage zons and Poison Nova Necs, its the most newb thing in the game. Thats just my opinion, if you guys dont mind PD theres an alternative build for this hybrid set up by going less Guided arrow and Critical strike bout 5-10 into each or jsut put 1 into each, then do some poison synergies.
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Posted 2004-06-25, 12:36 PM in reply to Endurack's post starting "Personally i don't care for anythign..."
Now, would you feel the same way about the Venom skill? It acts over such a short time, it's almost like it's not poison at all...
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Posted 2004-06-25, 02:58 PM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "Now, would you feel the same way about..."
WW Sins are based on nothing but poison damage and Open Wounds, its basiclly the most rtarted design I have seen. The funny thing is that they are still fiarly easy to beat. Personally I dont think anything of a WW sin since its mainly poison, if people enjoy playing them then thats fine I will just use my V/T and destroy them.
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Posted 2004-06-25, 04:20 PM in reply to Endurack's post starting "WW Sins are based on nothing but poison..."
Just do scroll-lock on the zons. That pwnz0rtz them.
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Posted 2004-06-25, 06:02 PM in reply to Endurack's post starting "WW Sins are based on nothing but poison..."
Endurack said:
WW Sins are based on nothing but poison damage and Open Wounds, its basiclly the most rtarted design I have seen.
The funny thing is, I absolutely murder almost anything in a duel with mine.

I get a little trouble from WW Barbs, and Hammerdins can be tricky.
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Posted 2004-06-25, 08:58 PM in reply to Vollstrecker's post starting "The funny thing is, I absolutely murder..."
Take a duel vs a good Druid, Necro, or V/T i garantee you wont win vs anyone who knows what they are doing. jOOb a.k.a. blckshdwdragon has one fo the best WW Sins I have seen, and he still cant beat my V/T unless I agree to only smite. He also cant beat druids that easy and he does pretty well vs. necros, but the good ones take him out pretty fast. As for my zon, if he hits me she will die pretty soon but I can take his sin out in a matter of 3-4 hits.
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