I don't see how you can even claim for or against waterboarding when it has not happened to you. It makes you feel like you're going to drown, and what they tell you on FoxNews is the sugar coated version of the story, you and I both know very well that behind closed doors shit is a lot worse than what we're being spoon fed.

I'd like to think we could have better means of extracting "information" than waterboarding.

Now, let's back it up a few steps, what the fuck even is the poing of waterboarding and worrying so greatly about trying to extract information that may even in itself be insignificant. Remember 9/11? Apparently we had been tipped off about it a good year in advance, we knew it was going to happen, and yet we couldn't stop it. There had been detainees and intelligence pointing to an attack on America, they could even get it down to a specific time of the year, and we still couldn't stop it. So how does torturing people that may or may not have had anything to specfically do with it justifying our bitterness that they caught us with our pants around our ankles?... It doesn't

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