i play on ladder and sov is right to a point..... there r alot of rip-off-artists on ladder but their r alot of suckers too. i've been back playing on ladder for about 1-1 and 1/2 months and with zelrons help i've gotten high runes and nigma and other highly sorted items......u just need to trade smart.....getting rich is hard if u don't know what people r looking for. eg. i brought a mara ammy at first for an ist...... 10 minutes later i sold it for 4 ists ....... then i brought 2xbk rings with a gul and sold them for jah mal..... i started with one ist and now have nigma, mara, hoz, 2x bk and 2xists now......not bad on trading for 2 nights.....

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