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SkyGoneBlue 2004-08-26 12:19 PM

PvP Guided Arrow need AR?
 
This may seem like an obvious question, but I have a question about Guided Arrow. Because it "always hits", is there a point in pumping your attack rating at all? I know that with Freezing Arrow, AR will matter because the actual arrow itself will do damage as well as the cold, but I don't know how that works with Guided Arrow.

The reason I ask is that I am going to be making a PvP Guided Arrow amazon, and I don't know whether or not I should invest in Penetrate.

Thanks in advance for any advice! :D

Joka69 2004-08-26 12:22 PM

put atleast one into it becuz pierce is godly for what u dont use ga for

SkyGoneBlue 2004-08-26 12:23 PM

Well, I wasn't planning on using any other attacks - just GA. It would be a dueling character, and no other arrow attack is really all that great for PvP (other than Multi-Shot, which WOULD require a big Penetrate investment).

So, for pure GA, is there any point at all to using Penetrate?

Ganga 2004-08-26 12:29 PM

http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30475

That or you zon going to be suck.

SkyGoneBlue 2004-08-26 12:44 PM

Well, the guide is ok, but he really didn't justify his skill choices very well. ONE point in Lightning Strike is going to 1-3 hit kill? I don't think so - especially because most people duel in Nightmare and have at least one lightning absorb item (for FoHers and Trappers).

On top of that, the charms are ridiculously inflated. Obtaining charms like that on NL now would take a wealth that I sure as hell don't posess. The same goes for the equipment. While 40/15s are duped like hell, they're still hard to get. And, I don't play with duped items anyway, so a lot of what he recommended is out of the question.

So, I'm still left asking, should I use Penetrate or not?

Ganga 2004-08-26 12:51 PM

Well... I really wouldn't recomand you make a zon then, if you only use her for duel, you sure will get... beaten very often.

And asnwer your question, penetrate = no.

SkyGoneBlue 2004-08-26 01:04 PM

Well maybe I suck at dueling, but the GA Zons that I have seen have really kicked ass. Plus, they're kind of the underdogs. Everyone plays Pallys, Barbs, and Sorcs - I usually try to make at least 'somewhat' unique characters.

My other dueler is a Dragon Talon Assassin (a build which everone also says sucks, but I have had really good luck with her - even beaten a charger pally).

FYI, I mostly duel by Clan Honor rules. No teleporting, duped items, overpowered curses, effects, items, etc. (Maybe you're familiar with them - I'm not sure.)

Ganga 2004-08-26 01:07 PM

Well good luck to your build then, I think you really need fast run/walk charms even tho you don't need the one with max damage. Also what armor are you going to use?

SkyGoneBlue 2004-08-26 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ganga
Well good luck to your build then, I think you really need fast run/walk charms even tho you don't need the one with max damage. Also what armor are you going to use?

Well I don't have all of my gear picked out yet.

I was thinking about Duress, CoH (if I get lucky), Shaft (doubtful)...

A Windforce is obvious, along with some good leech items (Gaze, dual ring, Dracs, etc).

Ganga 2004-08-26 01:33 PM

try to get engima, I would suggest b/c of the fast r/w.

SlickFic04 2004-08-26 01:50 PM

I got some free gear for u!!!!!! How about a 40/15'd Andy visage? 160-60ias armor? and poison charms? East/NL/Sc IM me Stikky04

SkyGoneBlue 2004-08-26 02:04 PM

Wow man, thanks! I'll be on in about an hour or so (depending when I leave work). :(

SkyGoneBlue 2004-08-26 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyGoneBlue
Wow man, thanks! I'll be on in about an hour or so (depending when I leave work). :(

Ok, I guess I can't be on right now - parents came down and insist on taking me out to eat. I added you to my list though man - I'm SkyGoneBlue. IM me if you see me on! Thanks again!

Endurack 2004-08-26 09:54 PM

Guided Arrow doesnt always hit. You block it, out run it, and defense can cnacle a Guided Arrow from hitting in 1.10

blckshdwdragon 2004-08-26 11:51 PM

defense doesnt cancel it out the only thing is either a block or avoid/evade can stop GA

SkyGoneBlue 2004-08-27 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blckshdwdragon
defense doesnt cancel it out the only thing is either a block or avoid/evade can stop GA

And I'm sure that Assassins could Weapon Block them too! ;)

Medieval Bob 2004-08-27 07:22 AM

Regardless, a lack of AR will not make a GA miss. So there's no need for it.

SkyGoneBlue 2004-08-27 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Medieval Bob
Regardless, a lack of AR will not make a GA miss. So there's no need for it.

Thanks Bob - that's what I was looking for!

Now, if I can just find Stikky online so he can hook me up with those godlies, I'll be in business! :killgrin:

blckshdwdragon 2004-08-27 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyGoneBlue
And I'm sure that Assassins could Weapon Block them too! ;)

did i mention Block stops GA? did i mention redundancy is like spam?

koolio_kid2001 2004-08-27 11:19 AM

weapon block does stop it and with an assassin u can use the one that makes u run fast and outrun the arrows pretty easily, i know i do. i can circle a zon and then dragon flight in and WW and then its an easy 1hit KO


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