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Coriander 2008-04-24 08:43 PM

Mayan Calendar/End of the world
 
The sacred Aztec calendar is properly called the Eagle Bowl. It represents the solar deity Tonatiuh. The amazingly accurate calendar has been in use in various forms for more than 2,000 years. A Zapotec prophecy, based on the Eagle Bowl, states:

“After Thirteen Heavens of Decreasing Choice, and Nine Hells of Increasing Doom, the Tree of Life shall blossom with a fruit never before known in the creation, and that fruit shall be the New Spirit of Men.”

The 13 Heavens and 9 Hells were each 52 years long (1,144 years total). Each of the 9 Hells were to be worse than the last. On the final day of the last Hell (August 17, 1987), Tezcatlipoca, god of death, would remove his mask of jade to reveal himself as Quetzelcoatl, god of peace.

In the mythology of the Aztecs, the first age of mankind ended with the animals devouring humans. The second age was finished by wind, the third by fire, and the fourth by water. The present fifth epoch is called Nahui-Olin (Sun of Earthquake), which began in 3113 BC and will end on December 24, 2011. It will be the last destruction of human existence on Earth. The date coincides closely with that determined by the brothers McKenna in The Invisible Landscape as “the end of history” indicated by their computer analysis of the ancient Chinese oracle-calendar, the I Ching.

The Mayan calendar is divided into Seven Ages of Man. The fourth epoch ended in August 1987. The Mayan calendar comes to an end on Sunday, December 23, 2012. Only a few people will survive the catastrophe that ensues. In the fifth age, humanity will realize its spiritual destiny. In the sixth age, we will realize God within ourselves, and in the seventh age we will become so spiritual that we will be telepathic.

SEE: THE FOUR WORLDS

Brian Scott's Host says:

"I come December 24, 2011 A.D. - A.E. given in rapport,
Seek the past, key to earth truth of wisdom, Past, Gate of Sun-
Tiahuanaco. Requested of this of I. Transportation. Physical.
Of this I say: ascension via Titicaca, reference; Tiahuanaco,
Decension, Helios

"Through the eyes of one man, all mankind will see."

Brian was told to "fear not."

Family, friends and UFO investigators experienced paranormal events from 1971 to 1975. Then the author became involved and documented Brian's transformation continuously, on a daily basis, from 1976 to March of 1980. In 1980, after Brian was acknowledged at the White House by President Jimmy Carter, and after Brian's invention, the NOR X1-11 was given to a university for Neural-Optical Research, the story ended -- declared a success. All paranormal events stopped, Brian went to work in the aerospace industry as a designer/draftsman and the Transformation of America began .

The words given to man --
Nous Laos Hikanos

(The God-Mind Returns to Common Man)

The canonical dates (according to Ehran the Scribe) on the ends of the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth worlds are August 12, 3113 BCE (the fall of Atlantis), December 24, 2011 CE (the appearance of Ryumyo), and April 4, 7137 CE. This gives 5123-5125 years per mana cycle [1,871,270 days for the Fifth World’s duration, and 1,871,969 for the Sixth World’s]. The Mayan Long Count suggests 1.872M days, or 5125.36 years. It also seems that Ehran’s dates are a year late (0.0.0.0.0 should be August 11 or 12, 3114 BCE— the astronomical year –3113) and a year early (13.0.0.0.0 corresponds to December 21 or 23, 2012).
Q - According to Mayan calculations, when (in our calendar) is the world due to end?

The end of the Mayan Great Cycle after the completion of the 12th Bak'tum. It’s either the 21st or 23rd December, 2012 depending on whether you use the 584,285 or 584,283 correlation coefficient.

December 23, 2012. I can't believe I actually remember this. I would go so far as to say that I am ashamed to know this.

On the last day.

It has already happened, at least for the Mayans.

According to Mayan calculations, the current cycle of the world is due to end in December 2012. There is some disagreement over whether the end of the current cycle of the world will involve the end of the world itself.

Ehran the Scribe: The Mayan calendar is the most amazing, as it contains a complete description of the magic cycles, including this current crossing of the Threshold. The Mayan calendar was created in the year 3372 BC (using the Christian calendar), just at the end of the last cycle. The Mayans described the cycles as "worlds", and stated that only certain life forms made the transition from one world to the next. The calendar, written over 5,000 years ago, predicted the exact day the Threshold Level would be passed. If we convert the Mayan dates to the current Christian calendar, it correctly states that the Threshold would be passed on December 24, 2011. On that day, the first Great Dragon was seen in Japan. The precision is amazing.

Atlantis sank on August 12, 3113 BC, thus marking the end of the Fourth World and the beginning of the Fifth. The Sixth World began on December 12, 2011 AD, and will end, according to the Mayan calendar, on April 4, 7137 AD.

We have the intervening time to enjoy what the Great Mother gives us and to use responsibly the double-edged sword of technology that our Human cousins have created. We must use both the energy of nature and the power of technology to try to fix the damage done by our short-lived relatives.

http://matrix.dumpshock.com/malik/Magicknet/ehran.htm

David Wilcock says: Clearly, the Maya put a great deal of work into this cycle, and it appears that they were warning us that this cycle causes periodic, massive cataclysms. The more we find out about this cycle, the more we want to know when it will be. Then we know that we can stop going to work, put on a pair of shorts, sit out and relax in a lawn chair and wait for the end of time, quietly sipping a lemonade [or perhaps something a lot stronger.] And the near - unanimous conclusion is that the end date is December 12, 2012.

2012. There you go - the sun shifts, the earth shifts, and the most expensive resort hotels in the world are booked out ten years in advance for that fateful night. But something doesn’t feel quite right. The multitudes of intuitive predictions that we already discussed seem to center on 2000. 2012 seems relatively close, time - wise, to these predictions, but yet that date was never mentioned in any of them. It appears, based on other sources of prophecy, to be out of sync. "Oh well," we say, "we’ve got twelve more years to worry, futz around and prepare for this thing." But again, the pieces don’t seem to fit.

True, the champions of the 12 / 12 / 12 school [December 12, 2012] make arguments that appear to be logical. There are, in fact, bits and pieces of evidence that loosely fit into this date as accurate, such as the approximate time for the turning from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius as 2011. In addition, Cotterell demonstrates how the planet Venus behaves in very unique ways at both the beginning and the ending of the commonly used set of dates. This has to do with the rising of Venus on the horizon at dawn during a certain specific time of the year. Cotterell demonstrates this to be a profoundly symbolic event to the Mayans, known as the "Birth of Venus." We also have some researchers such as Terence Mc Kenna who claim that Earth comes into alignment with the center of the Milky Way Galaxy at this date, and that linear time breaks down at that point.

ALL ABOUT 2012

Based on a True Story
A New Framework for Understanding Mankind
The Archetypal Transformational Drama of Our Age

Come forth all those who seek knowledge,
for these are the Days of Truth.
Look to the East has Come --
A New Beginning for All Mankind.

Brian Scott, born in 1943, was chosen for "Transformation"
by The Host, an Old Man with white hair known as the religious leader
of God's Other Children.
Brian agreed to accept a "Quantum (sudden) evolution to mind level Ten" in 1971, when he was 29.
He believed that this process, called The Play of Life, TM
would somehow save mankind from destruction,
but he knew few details.

The Host's Play of Life began in 1971 and will end
on December 24, 2011 AD--a 40 year term. This time period is also
the "tenth and final descent of Voltar's People."

Brian was asked to visit sites in South America. He found

A Story in Stone
Carved Thousands of Years Ago And
Repeated Again Today in Modern Form by him.
He was stunned and frightened at first, but gradually
accepted his role in the Host's Play of Life TM
"The Knowledge man needs Today is of the Past.
What is done today,
has been done before.
Man succeeded in the past, and will succeed again!"

During the Play of Life process, Brian learned that he was repeating
events that had been enacted previously in South America by
another common man - Ticci Viracocha, a god to the Inca.
Brian visited sites in South America and saw knowledge of the past.
Though frightened, he finally accepted the Transformation
(Quantum Evolution to Mind Level 4)
and he gradually understood why he had been Marked
so that "All mankind would know him"
by Spider and Jaguar symbols on his arms.
He learned that these ancient symbols were known to the Incan people
as traits of their god - Ticci Viracocha
He was also marked by a number in the palm of his right hand.

020-020-020

Brian met the Host on a craft, and then found the Old Man's image carved on a stone in South America.
He also met long-eared giants on the craft, and found their statues in South America. He even was shown rock carvings of dome headed aliens who opposed the Host's, Play of Life and he met them on a different type of craft.

Brian was caught in the conflict between two groups. Brian met first the Host from "Time Beyond all Time,
and Voltar--the leader of a handsome people with red and blond hair. They had long ago interacted with earth and our "Secondary World" of aliens with big domed heads and black eyes. Voltar and his people felt that man was being manipulated by the Secondary World aliens, and planned to use Brian in a test project to free mankind
from the "Secondary World" aliens and their plan to exterminate mankind beginning on
December 24th, 2011.

The Host and Voltar wanted to prove that the "Common Man" of Earth could evolve quickly to a higher level
of mind, and then maintain the Transformation without falling downwards, or turning evil! Brian was the test subject!
But Voltar's people had to follow conditions set by the dome-headed black-eyed aliens. Every step was "conditional."
Despite numerous attacks by the Secondary World aliens for breaking the rules and conditions, Brian succeeded. Voltar's people triumphed over the "Secondary World of Man," and in March of 1980, the black eyed Aliens were supposedly restricted from interfering with man's progress for at least 22 years. Brian was just the first, many more were to follow as examples for mankind. The transformation process was to continue from the individual, to the nation, to the world, similar to how the Greeks of 454 B.C. eventually helped create a "New World."

[Editor's Note: A Group of Grey aliens was forced to leave the Earth in 1996 by the other groups of aliens who were here to help mankind as they could. However, there are many treaties being made and broken by the aliens, even now. ]

Willkillforfood 2008-04-24 10:33 PM

I don't put a lot of stock in the mayan calendar, personally. However, they were a very advanced and interesting people, and deserve remeberence.

KagomJack 2008-04-24 10:47 PM

Same. But this gets brought up almost every few months by some member here.

Coriander 2008-04-24 10:50 PM

Ah, It does? I apologize then, I just found it surfing the net and figured I might as well post it.

KagomJack 2008-04-24 11:00 PM

Oh dude, no need. It's cool. We haven't had much posts brought up in The History forum, so it's appreciated nonetheless. :)

D3V 2008-04-25 12:06 PM

It's fine. I know for a fact i've brought up the appocolypse a few times on my own, it's very interesting stuff. But the more and more I think about it, we really can't stop anything if it is in fact inevidible. If it isn't, we can only try and better our lives and try to help this world we live in.

Kaneda 2008-04-25 12:38 PM

Klo is obsessed with the 2012 shit.
It's hogwash obviously.

Coriander 2008-04-25 12:39 PM

And your dispute about this is based on what?

Dar_Win 2008-04-25 12:41 PM

I'll make a thread on the 24th to let you all know how intact everything is.

Dar_Win 2008-04-25 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coriander
And your dispute about this is based on what?

If the Mayans were intelligent they would still be around now. :rolleyes:

Wallow 2008-04-25 01:39 PM

If one looks at the world today from an outside view, it's easy to identify the most of the world being corrupted. So the whole apocalipse thing doesn't to me seem a lie.

Asamin 2008-04-25 01:45 PM

I won't even make it past my first year of collage. That sucks.

Coriander 2008-04-25 01:45 PM

I WILL BE ABLE TO DRINK BEFORE I DIE!!! FUCK YEAH!!! Heh, but yeah, sucks for you though. Sorry 'bout that.

KagomJack 2008-04-25 05:51 PM

That was a very asinine comment there. The Mayans, to some extent, are still around through the current inhabitants of the regions they once lived in thanks to the Spanish mixing blood with the ones they didn't ruthlessly slaughter or give smallpox to just for their fucking gold and to, y'know, Christianize them.

And as for the whole "How can you prove this whole end of the world is hogwash" question, I will put it simply: People have been predicting the end of the world for a very, very long time, since before Jesus. Besides, it really isn't the end of the world according to their calendar. It's actually the end of an age, which means a new one will probably begin, thus negating, really, that the world is ending. They probably didn't have a real chance to come up with more ages past 2012 because of whatever reason, be it the stars weren't yielding what they needed or, y'know, the fucking Spanish bastards.

Coriander 2008-04-25 06:05 PM

True, But also keep in the mind that the world ending is Inevitable. We are just a star, and stars lifespans, As long as they are, Aren't infinite. True it will most likely be a long way off, But it will end at some point. And that was an intereting read Kagom.

KagomJack 2008-04-25 07:47 PM

Thank you! And yes, the world will eventually one day be destroyed however it is meant to be, whether a manmade thing or the sun engulfs us or Jesus comes back riding Muhammed like he's a donkey through the fires of hell in Jerusalem's Palestine.

Wallow 2008-04-26 08:49 AM

I think the world won't be destroyed, but cleansed of the corruption. The world will be destroyed when the Milky Way collides with the galaxy (I forget the name) that is approaching us, though that will happen in a couple of million years.

Kaneda 2008-04-26 12:06 PM

Maybe a giant space elephant will hear us floating by and save us.

talentedhamster 2008-04-26 12:49 PM

Personally, I'm not taking any chances. I'll believe it. If I'm wrong, OK i'm still alive. If I'm right, I'll have done a majority of things I wanted to before that day.


No matter how much anyone else says that it's not true, come december 20th you'll be nervous.

KagomJack 2008-04-26 02:21 PM

Not destroyed per se, but it'll be made very uninhabitable.

The sun will probably engulf us first :]

Atnas 2008-04-26 08:01 PM

December 20th is my birthday d:3

KagomJack 2008-04-26 09:38 PM

And you'll live to see many many birthdays upon that day.

Atnas 2008-04-27 11:12 AM

I'm hoping I get to sex a lot of scaredy cat atheists that day who surprisingly take the misinterpreted word of an ancient civilization over any established religion's teachings.

Wallow 2008-04-27 11:40 AM

Wait, but aren't you an atheist?

Atnas 2008-04-27 11:44 AM

I'm definitely a theist.

Kaneda 2008-04-27 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atnas
I'm hoping I get to sex a lot of scaredy cat atheists that day who surprisingly take the misinterpreted word of an ancient civilization over any established religion's teachings.

What!? I think you fail to see that most Atheists are smart enough to not believe in lol established religish teachings. Therefore also not buying into end of the world drivle.

Willkillforfood 2008-04-27 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talentedhamster
Personally, I'm not taking any chances. I'll believe it. If I'm wrong, OK i'm still alive. If I'm right, I'll have done a majority of things I wanted to before that day.


No matter how much anyone else says that it's not true, come december 20th you'll be nervous.

You should spent all your money to talk on the phone to psychics. It'll make your life more fulfilling.

Atnas 2008-04-27 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaneda
What!? I think you fail to see that most Atheists are smart enough to not believe in lol established religish teachings. Therefore also not buying into end of the world drivle.

True as that first part may be, almost every one of them I personally know believes this end-of-world shit, or at least entertains the possibility. It makes no sense to me why they would pick this over organized religion, as a practiced religion has more likelihood of being true than a coincidence of Armageddon on the date the Mayans stopped their calendars.

They just want something to believe in, I think.

Atheists may be smart but they lack a key ingredient to the spicy soup of life. Believing in something.

KagomJack 2008-04-28 12:11 AM

Sounds aboot right there.

Kaneda 2008-04-28 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atnas
Believing in something.

I believe in myself, and life. What else is there.
Anything else is simply weakness.
You are scared that a creature as powerfull and important as yourself will simply cease to exist in a trivial 90+- years. :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
Just a adult version of Santa Claus. That is all.
You are being scammed.

Willkillforfood 2008-04-29 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaneda
I believe in myself, and life. What else is there.
Anything else is simply weakness.
You are scared that a creature as powerfull and important as yourself will simply cease to exist in a trivial 90+- years. :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
Just a adult version of Santa Claus. That is all.
You are being scammed.

I'd like to put this post in context for you guys, in case any of you are new. This fellow is an inflammatory son of a bitch whose promiscuity and ignorance is only surpassed by his apathy for your feelings. If you wish to believe in something there is nothing wrong with it. There is no way to disprove or prove the existence of a higher being (at least currently.)

Kaneda, why don't you go tend to your child before Klo bitch slaps you? Thanks.

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P.S. Thankfully not all atheists share your behavior. You gave guys everywhere a bad name with your old lifestyle and although being a (hopefully ...although I'm doubting it) GOOD father figure is a path to redemption, you still have a very checkered past. I daresay it is hypocritical for you, a guy who can't keep his dick in his pants, to call anyone else weak, and it is laughable. LOLLOLOLOLOL. Sorry.

Kaneda 2008-04-29 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willkillforfood
I'd like to put this post in context for you guys, in case any of you are new. This fellow is an inflammatory son of a bitch whose promiscuity and ignorance is only surpassed by his apathy for your feelings. If you wish to believe in something there is nothing wrong with it. There is no way to disprove or prove the existence of a higher being (at least currently.)

Kaneda, why don't you go tend to your child before Klo bitch slaps you? Thanks.

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P.S. Thankfully not all atheists share your behavior. You gave guys everywhere a bad name with your old lifestyle and although being a (hopefully ...although I'm doubting it) GOOD father figure is a path to redemption, you still have a very checkered past. I daresay it is hypocritical for you, a guy who can't keep his dick in his pants, to call anyone else weak, and it is laughable. LOLLOLOLOLOL. Sorry.

Well, isn't that cute. What a sad little attempt at a flame.

My promiscuity huh. Lemme see here, lemme just think for a minute... Hmm Hmm. Ok, I'm counting them now, ok hmmm, oh wow this is hard. I mean theres just so many girls. Uhhh ok I got it. It was hard, I mean I had to use my whole left hand to count them! 5. Now I know that sounds like a SHIT TON compared to 0 but it really is not. Trust me. Also, just a little fyi, my number could be triple that.

Ignorance. :rolleyes: Your the one spouting off.
Quote:

I daresay it is hypocritical for you, a guy who can't keep his dick in his pants, to call anyone else weak, and it is laughable.
Who says I can't? :haha: :haha: It really is much more of a choice.:haha: :haha:

People who are to fat and lazy and socially inept are weak champ. So yes, you are sorry.

Atnas... Just a adult version of Santa Claus. Think about it man.

Wallow 2008-05-01 02:05 PM

I don't know Kaneda, that looked like quite a good flame there to me. You don't have to make it seem like it wasn't, and back to the topic...
It's people who choose what to believe, so when the date of Armageddon actually comes, we'll find out who was right and wrong. This will force the wrong to come to a better understanding of things, and vice versa if Armageddon never occurs.

Atnas 2008-05-01 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaneda
Atnas... Just a adult version of Santa Claus. Think about it man.

You act like I believe in the western God of Christianity. Why does everyone always assume...

Willkillforfood 2008-05-01 02:42 PM

I'm sorry man, but I'd much rather be insulting Raziel. I was going to respond to your flame, but then I read it a few more times, and then it just made me feel bad for you. You're better off sticking with flaming people who're also retarded.

Kaneda 2008-05-01 03:50 PM

Yes, but with religions, there is no backing. Just outlandish storys and "faith" or "belief" which is always required above all other things to proceed forward. Hubabalou

Atnas 2008-05-01 04:49 PM

It's because human nature is to try to explain the unexplainable and to be narcissistic, that religions such as Judaism, Islam, or Christianity came into practice.

Those that require the utmost faith with no noticeable effects save the normal meditative status which comes when praying. Note that normal meditation puts your brain in the same state as fervent prayer does. There needs be no deity.

I am a theist, one who believes that dogmatism is a wrong practice. I merely do not believe these shenanigans the middle east threw at us to pray for. I credit the eastern religions as a more valid form of religious practice. These religions which do not need blind faith to achieve no goal, save for the faith required for the inexpressible bliss one feels when they learn to let it all go, to accept what happens, and to count yourself as one of the many whole.

Wallow 2008-05-01 05:22 PM

Nice speech
Remember people also believe in certain religions because they were raised in them, so that's all they know. Also, religion in a way justifies different motives and morals. For example, the suicide bombers of 9/11 committed those atrocities because they thought they would be rewarded in the "afterlife" because of it.

talentedhamster 2008-05-01 05:28 PM

thats dumb. thers no proof no explinations. idk thats just my opinion.

Atnas 2008-05-01 06:40 PM

Religion does not justify one to supposedly fly planes into buildings, nor does it justify a gruesome Crusade. One that follows blindly has no excuse, as at any moment if they lift the veil from their eyes they may see how they have been deluded.

Except, I'm open to Islam to being the "One true faith" as much as I am Catholicism or Judaism or there being no underlying plan or working, and everything just is, or perhaps this reality is the absence of existence.

I can't verify anything for certain, but I do know for a fact that religious groups have conflicts which result in unfavorable outcomes, ones that the world could do without. That is why I presume a world without dogmatism, whether it be from Jews or Scientists, would be closer to an ideal than our currently religiously diverse one.


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