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Demosthenes 2005-04-27 06:12 PM

Shinto, time is by definition the fourth dimension. If you would like, you could call it the first dimension (I believe), but by convention it is the fourth dimension. You could label it anything you like. You could call it disneyland if you wanted, but in the Physics world, time is the 4th dimension by convention.

Penny_Bags 2005-04-28 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinto Katana
Penny_Bags likes to flame out of the flame forum, for one, and for another... he likes to talk about boners, and how he imagines me getting one--from my "deep thoughts", hence the comment. Penny also is immature, in which he complains and nags about topics, which if he has nothing better to say--anything intelligent (and/or contributing to the thread); he should not be posting at all.

Hahahaha, you are so self contradictory... it's awesome. I'm so immature... great gauge of maturity, a gaming forum. Good job. You're a winner. You win so much, that you even manage to contradict yourself and still win.

A couple of the said contradictions:
1. Going off topic in order to bash someone for going off topic
2. Calling me immature and than going on to try and bash me for things that don't even make sense. Oh yeah... I sure LOVE thinking about you having a boner... you fucking fool. I am just talking about how fucking awesome you think you are for having these "deep thoughts". After that I simply questioned what the fuck being "deep" even meant to you, and why it's such a coveted thing.

Dear God, just look at yourself.
"Penny also is immature, in which he complains and nags about topics, which if he has nothing better to say--anything intelligent"
OH MY FUCKING GOD.

Christ, you are worthless. It's not so much of a flame as it is an expression of my distaste for your existence. However, I would still like to know why you think I don't contribute anything to Zelaron. I would also like to know how you can say that I don't say anything intelligent. I mean, self evaluation isn't the most accurate tool, but I am pretty sure if you ask around you'll see that others have a very different opinion of me than you do, emo boi.

Demosthenes 2005-04-28 05:16 PM

I agree. Penny kicks ass.

Sovereign 2005-04-28 05:28 PM

http://zelaron.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=92

PLEEEEEASE.

This thread has actual signs of intelligence from SOME people. I don't want to have to close it >_<

Penny_Bags 2005-04-28 05:50 PM

Bitch about it.

Fine... I'll... not win. Besides, originally I was just telling Shinto in a very long winded manner that he was arguing something stupid; the definition of the word.

Kaneda 2005-04-29 08:22 AM

No fool. Smell is a sense. Not anything like light, which is energy. No one knows if a being can move through a stream of energy.

Kaneda 2005-04-29 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinto Katana
"Noah - Time is not the 4th dimension:
Time is just a way of measuring the velocity of the motion of an object through the 3 real dimensions. In order to go into the future you would have to stop your particles for the desired amount of time (basically cryogenics). Your particles weren't present to have their effect on the future so the outcome would be slightly different than what it would have been. In order to go into the past you would have to reverse the past motion of all other particles in the universe (an exact reverse of physical law that affects everything but you). Going by that logic, I am lead to 'believe' that going into the past is literally impossible, but going into the future isn't very difficult at all. Now, if you are one that believes (I'm not saying I are or aren't) that the mind is immaterial then that still leaves the possibility for mental time travel. Any thoughts would be appreciated."

"Noah - Time is not the 4th dimension:
Wow. OK, let's go over this. If I want to specify an event, I need 4 numbers: latitude, longitude, altitude, and time. Hence four dimensions. Or look at it this way: An object could hardly exist with width and length but no depth; there would literally be no distance between one side and the other! Nor could something exist with length, width, depth, but no duration. It would pop out of existence the same instant it popped into existence! Hence, four dimensions.

I believe cryogenics simply slows all of your particles to a point where you are bairly alive, otherwise you would die. But if that wasn't true then yes technically you would be moving into the future while your person stays the exact same. Therefore, if the second paragraph is true as you guys say then the frozen person would stop existing because he has no duration? What defines that you are in the 4th dimension?

Sovereign 2005-04-29 09:20 AM

......

They freeze you after you die. THey take yoru body down to such a low temperature, that celular decay is almost stopped. You're not alive for any of it. Thats the point.... to freeze yourself after you die so one day you can hopfully be reborn...

Kaneda 2005-04-29 10:00 AM

Well, now we've got to factor in the "what happens after you die" principles. Are you still traveling into the future, while your body sits still on the dimensional timeline.

Medieval Bob 2005-04-29 10:19 AM

It doesn't matter what your body does.

It doesn't matter if you can travel more than one direction on the timeline.

It doesn't matter how do you it.

You, me, and everything else in this existence travels forward at the same (neglecting dilation nearing the speed of light) speed along the axis of time. That's how it is. That's how it's always been. That's how it always will be.

Why the hell are we still arguing this?

You're not philisophical by questioning what we label time. You're just appearing stupid.

!King_Amazon! 2005-04-29 03:28 PM

GG.

We win.

Penny_Bags 2005-04-29 06:12 PM

But shinto hasn't responded yet! Who knows! He could disprove all that research with a Zelaron post!

Demosthenes 2005-04-29 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penny_Bags
But shinto hasn't responded yet! Who knows! He could disprove all that research with a Zelaron post!

Science and research are irrelevant when we have Bible Codes!

Sovereign 2005-04-29 06:47 PM

And I bet you he saw that post coming.

Demosthenes 2005-04-29 06:58 PM

Of course he would have. It's prophecy! The Bible Codes would have predicted it!

JRwakebord 2005-04-29 07:10 PM

Do they also predict that this thread has gone on WAY TOO FUCKING LONG??!?!

Demosthenes 2005-04-29 07:19 PM

Pfft. They predict everything. They most certainly have, although the newest prophecy is that Grav will gain 30 pounds this summer.

Kaneda 2005-04-29 08:27 PM

You can't win a debate by simply ignoring the questions.

Grav 2005-04-29 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjordan2nd
Science and research are irrelevant when we have the Bible!

Quoted for false

Demosthenes 2005-04-29 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravitonSurge
Quoted for false

Quoted for misquotation.


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