with my design it would involve the airless vacuum called space. .... a ring of coiled copper wire and a magnet with boosters to get the magnet going around the ring
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the inside of the ring would look like this //---\\
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the magnet will be guided be magnetic rails inside the ring
(take note that the . are not apart of the design

I don't think anything currently being discussed would be possible, but still does not mean the possibility is not out there.

with this design there wouldnt be any wasted energy but electrical emergey gained

I hate to say it, but my thinking is similar to yours Jamer. I don't know why I think the way that I do, I don't even know why i'm so hard pressed to believe that anything like this could even work. I've honestly figured you could eliminate factors that would make it impossible such as friction and find a way to generate a small amount of electricity. Atleast with Magnets you aren't using energy, you are just using magnetical push and pull on the frame of a motor, while convertion the motion into electricity through the generator, which could then be placed wherever. The factors that could not be eliminated would only mean the machine would run at x% (75-80% due to drag) efficiency, and not 100% efficiency.

Yes. But like I stated, you can't create a machine that puts out more power than it takes in. It is by definition impossible, as energy cannot be created nor can it be destroyed. The energy has to come from somewhere.

As long as you tell me that, I am still going to believe for the rest of my life that there is a loophole somewhere, and I can't explain why. I am aware that it sounds ignorant, but it's just what is stuck inside of my head.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy

Read that. If you find a way around it, you've found your loophole. Good luck.

Thank's for the advice.

Dude, that's called a cylinder. :weird:

I am confident that somebody already has, or will eventually design a machine using magnets in some form that will overpower it's resistance, hence churning a motor/gear setup with an electric generator that could eventually become a platform to build more complex, more elaborate machines that can generate tons of more power. That's the whole idea of this thread is not to contemplate something to power a house or vehicle, but just a small machine, a prototype model of this motor that would be able to transfer the motion from the magnets pulling the motor, and turn it into electricity.

I'm thinking electromagnetics is where it's at, just how is it done? AC.

I'll scan some of my designs sometime and put them on here, even if I get laughed out of here. My thinking is that if using a gear system on the generator, similar to a bicycle gearing system, could have movement generated from nothing at the highest gear (easiest to move, lowest resistance) once at a certain speed, and a current is generated a second set of magnets could turn on and gears would swap, hence creating more churn for the generator, which results in more electricity generated. No I do not know enough about this type of technology and no I cannot inform anybody in great detail, but my thought process figures a flywheel type setup could make this possible. And if not? Whatever, it's still fun to ponder.