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Wallow 2008-05-01 06:43 PM

I never said their religion would justify their acts, I said that's what people believe in. And to TalentedHamster, if you want proof, go look it up on google or something. I'm just relaying the information I've learned over the years.

Atnas 2008-05-01 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Why
Also, religion in a way justifies different motives and morals.

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Originally Posted by Why
I never said their religion would justify their acts

Oh I see.

Kaneda 2008-05-01 09:36 PM

Is that sarcasm?
It doesn't justify their acts, simply explains their motives/morals. Perhaps a bit of miss wording.

Dar_Win 2008-05-01 11:04 PM

If I own a major news source I'm going to report mass destruction to freak everyone out.

Wallow 2008-05-02 01:41 PM

Thank you, I sometimes mis-word somethings. What counts is the thought:p

S2 AM 2008-05-06 07:41 AM

The Earth will someday cease to exist. Period.

Assuming mankind is still around, either terra-bound or interstellar-based, it doesn't matter what the event is or when it happens, every religious group will say "I told you so" with some very loosely interprated texts or teachings.

Meanwhile - those of us who are sane - will realize it's just an asteroid, galaxy collision, sun implosion, etc, that is bound to happen through chance or time.

Wallow 2008-05-06 02:37 PM

Well for outcomes that are known, the Milky Way will collide with the Andromeda Galaxy in a couple of million years...

Atnas 2008-05-06 05:58 PM

Who cares.

Seriously. I don't know if that's accurate but it's in a couple million years.

And there's nothing to be afraid of in death or the world ending. Everyone seems to think it matters.

I can't wait to die.

KagomJack 2008-05-06 09:30 PM

I'm personally ready for when I die. Others, though, not so much.

Wallow 2008-05-07 01:58 PM

Who says we were afraid of death? I honestly could care less when I die, as long as I accomplished something important in life.

Coffeedagger 2008-05-07 02:00 PM

I'm not going to die.

Atnas 2008-05-07 02:03 PM

: D

pound it.

Asamin 2008-05-09 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneda
What!? I think you fail to see that most Atheists are smart enough to not believe in lol established religish teachings. Therefore also not buying into end of the world drivle.

The end of the world is not based on religion. It just happens to be where the Mayans stopped their calendar.

Atnas 2008-05-09 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Asamin
It just happens to be where the Mayans stopped their calendar.

And that's all it is. If I write a calendar, get tired of it, and it is found by people of the future, will the end predict the end?

Kaneda 2008-05-09 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Atnas
And that's all it is. If I write a calendar, get tired of it, and it is found by people of the future, will the end predict the end?

Well obviously the theory about the world ending sprung from a little more than that. The calendar is just a calendar though. That is correct. While the bible(and other religions text) are just fictional books.

Wallow 2008-05-09 02:49 PM

Well, we'll all see what happens in 4 years.

Asamin 2008-05-11 01:11 PM

it won't happen.

Wallow 2008-05-11 04:39 PM

You can't say that for sure. I think it just comforts you to reassure yourself that everything will be good and fine in 4 years.

Coriander 2008-05-11 06:19 PM

Of course they are going to comfort themselves into thinking it's fine. And Asamin, No-one knows if it will or it won't, It's one of the many mysteries in this world.

Willkillforfood 2008-05-11 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallow
You can't say that for sure. I think it just comforts you to reassure yourself that everything will be good and fine in 4 years.

Everything isn't good and fine now, let alone 4 years from now. However, a change in the executive branch will help a lot :D.

Coriander 2008-05-11 06:22 PM

Or make it worse.

KagomJack 2008-05-11 09:05 PM

We'll be here in 4 years. Probably will continue on past 5, 6, etc.

Asamin 2008-05-16 04:21 AM

It's just something that some strange person out there noticed. It wont happen.

Elizabeth 2008-05-16 07:45 PM

That's funny, my cousin kept throwing death proclomations at me when he was busy ranting due to the lack of brain cells he has. I think it's incredibly stupid, the world's going to end one day that's for sure, but bloody hell it isn't going to end in my lifetime if I can help it.

MidnightsChorus 2008-06-11 09:56 AM

I dont believe it so much just because, in my christian faith, we were told that we wouldnt know the day. I think it will come at a time none of us are expecting. lol. I will admit though, this mayan stuff is scary. They made some predictions that were dead on accurate.

Chruser 2008-06-11 11:25 AM

Why hasn't anyone mentioned my favorite Doomsday toy yet?


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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is a particle accelerator of the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) that lies under the Franco-Swiss border near Geneva, Switzerland. The LHC is in the final stages of construction and commissioning, with some sections already being cooled down to their final operating temperature of approximately 2K.

The first beams are due for injection mid June 2008 with the first collisions planned to take place 2 months later. The LHC will become the world's largest and highest-energy particle accelerator. The LHC is being funded and built in collaboration with over two thousand physicists from thirty-four countries as well as hundreds of universities and laboratories.

[...]

In addition to the Higgs boson, other theorized novel particles that might be produced, and for which searches are planned, include strangelets, micro black holes, magnetic monopoles and supersymmetric particles.

[...]

Concerns have been raised that performing collisions at previously unexplored energies might unleash new and disastrous phenomena. These include the production of micro black holes, and strangelets, potentially resulting in a doomsday scenario. Such issues were raised in connection with the RHIC accelerator, both in the media and in the scientific community; however, after detailed studies, scientists reached such conclusions as "beyond reasonable doubt, heavy-ion experiments at RHIC will not endanger our planet" and that there is "powerful empirical evidence against the possibility of dangerous strangelet production."

[...]

The risk of a doomsday scenario was indicated by Sir Martin Rees, with respect to the RHIC, as being at least a 1 in 50,000,000 chance.


Essentially, the LHC will recreate the conditions seen directly after the Big Bang by hypothetically producing a "God particle"; the only elementary particle in the standard model of partiticle physics which we have not yet observed. Whether or not it appears, the results may answer one of our most fundamental questions: How was the universe created? What else have we got? Oh yeah:

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Professor Dr. Otto E. Rössler warns that the scientific community claims the success of the experiment may result in the black hole destroying the planet within 50 million years. His own calculations indicate that this time frame may in fact be closer to 50 months.

Let's see; 50 months after either the point in time in which the machine will be started (June 2008), or after the first particle collisions will occur (August 2008) implies that the hypothetical end of the world scenario will reach its state of completion in August to October, 2012.

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Originally Posted by Professor Dr. Otto E. Rössler (translation)
After the CERN machine is built, it will be the first time in the history of mankind [that] black holes on earth can be produced.

It is, however, very [difficult] to attack it. Almost the entire scientific community stands behind it.


Read more about him here if you like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_R%C3%B6ssler


While I am skeptical about doomsday scenarios, I must admit it would be an elegant end of mankind. Man masters science. Man finds "God particle" that created the universe as we know it. Mankind is annihilated as predicted. Nothing gained, nothing lost. Time repeats itself.


"Heaven lasts long, and Earth abides
What is the secret of their durability?
Is it because they do not live for themselves
That they endure so long?"

- Lao Tzu

Coriander 2008-06-11 11:29 AM

2012 rears it's ugly head again.

KagomJack 2008-06-12 09:55 PM

I am still skeptical. But I've my own reasons.

Vault Dweller 2008-06-13 12:09 PM

Zombies. That's how I want humanity to go out.

Willkillforfood 2008-06-13 12:14 PM

It'd be cool shooting zombies :D>-<.

KagomJack 2008-06-16 06:10 AM

Fuck, dude! Me too!

MidnightsChorus 2008-06-16 10:52 PM

Something big is definately going to happen soon. I can almost feel it. Don't know about the end of the world, but something is going to happen.

jamer123 2008-06-17 09:17 PM

thats how i feel too

D3V 2008-09-10 10:44 AM

Excellent post Chruser. I agree with you for the most part, that would be a brilliant summary of Mankind to finally evolve technologically to the point where we find out how we were created, and destroy ourselves while doing it. Brilliant! And at the same time depressing. But in all honesty I doubt anything will happen, I just hope everything goes as planned and we can build from this research and that all of these hypothetical situations are just that, hypothetical.


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