Slim is in the 'alliance' be careful!

There is an alliance being formed to get rid of me? LOL. All you have to do is present valid points to chruser, and I'd be gone in no time.

D3V, you're a fucking simpleton. I don't even like Grav, I don't dislike the guy either right now. Since I let off a bit of steam in the FF at him, he hasn't really given me another reason to hate him, though your dense ass certainly deserves to die a horribly painful death in uncapped's new "Ownder" (Patent Pending.)

This is something we really need to resolve asap...>.<

It seems that people are pissed off at Sov for banning Grav for some threads and posts. D3V is pissed because Sov edited his posts and a temp ban (am I correct?) and also because he defended Bob and just edited a few posts to prevent banning, etc.. And now we're in the "OMG, SOV IS ABUSING TEH POWER!" crap.

I suggest a few things: Sov, slack up a bit :) Also, don't do that anymore, it is quite unfair to people (Grav deserved to be banned for breaking many rules and continually making new names when he's banned). D3V: I like you, you're cool, etc., but quit bitching about it, you have a problem with Sov? Present it to Chrusher and go on about it with him.

Um, just so you know it's Chruser. Otherwise, mostly valid points.

Or here's a new idea! Talk to me in a civilized, respectful manner, and chances are, 99.99 percent of the time, the problem can be resolved WITHOUT any further fighting. I guarentee it. You want me to ease up? Fine. I'm done editing posts and non of them will be removed unless posted by a banned member under a new name, or is clearly just a flame.

That's cool of you Sov. I believe that a civilized approach would make things better instead of the constant moans and groans...

(HoH: MY BAD >.<)

Actually I don't really have too much of a problem with Soverign. And even if I wanted to present anything to 'Chruser' he would just say something with a smartass remark and discard it and go about talking of the Legislative branch.

Then bring up the issue to me, IN A CIVILIZED, NON VERBALLY ABUSIVE MANNER, and I will be more then happy to introduce it to ad mod, or try to get him to listen. (This willl work with any other staff member for that matter...)

I'm a lot more likely to listen and talk back to you if a Convo starts out with "Hey", instead of "YOu mother fucker".

I do want to say something though, Sov is much more tolerant than the peta2.com mods are. Many of you may not like him right now because you view him as a "tyrant", but you should be happy with him...we could have some of the psychotic men of peta2.com

Honestly, what a fucking cheapshot.

~Edited~ I realize it was very cheap and immature. Sorry.

I'm quite proud you're willing enough to admit that you were being immature.

Haha, thanks? There really isn't a place for that nowadays, with trying to repair the forums and repairing the mood.

There was no place for it ever.

This is stupid, the mods are being assholes now, editing people's post, moving them, etc. Just chill for fucks sake, dont do your job for a week and see how things turn up, then you can make a choice.

Dude, they need to be a little more strict. They should keep on doing their jobs, but with a little more slack in some areas (obscenities). They should move posts if it need be. Without order only chaos ensues.

What the fuck is the big deal with MOVING POSTS?! If it's in the wrong forum it NEEDS moved.

Since people didn't realize that it's something that needs to be done sometimes because their primal idiocy gets in the way.

If something breaks the TOS, and Sov deletes/edits it, shut up. It doesn't matter that "he didn't delete that other thread" or whatever.

If you're going 1 MPH over the speed limit, a normal cop usually won't pull you over. If he does, for whatever reason (maybe he hates Fords or something), no amount of whining will change the fact that you were, in fact, breaking the law and just got caught while doing it.

It's not an "abuse of power" to enforce the law as it's written.. though perhaps it is a waste of time/resources in some cases.

Well what my argument was he was not enforcing the rules against anybody else. He gave me a temp ban for profanity, when there were atleast 20 other active threads with profanity in them, in doing so I guess he was pissed he found out he was wrong, and removed the temp ban.

The staff is leiniant, and that is fine, it works good. They do their job accordingly, and that's why they were elected/picked.

Actually I'm a strong believer of picked law enforcement. You, D3V, should be banned for being alive

I accidently picked the wrong option. He is most likely being antagonized into using his mod powers, though.

Which one did you pick. (just to make sure), I'll change it for you.

I picked 'Yes, he is.' I meant to pick 'No, he's not.'

If anything could be more clearer bluecube, then i dont know what I'd do.

D3v, Did you ever wonder why chruser replys to you in smartass remarks?

He told me himself. He said you are a fool. Dont try backing it up saying I am too, Once again, he told me himself, I just act like a fool. ^_-

Go die, then you wont be a fool.

Also, Bluecube put it easy to understand. Pretend you're the ford, and sov is the cop. He doesnt fucking LIKE you. Does it really matter? Maybe you should work on you not acting so retarted most of the time, and make it so he picks on somebody else(not saying he picks on you.)

Slaynish, BlueCube acts much more intelligent than you do sometimes.

Well duh, Bluecube IS more intelligent than Slaynish. If you were talking about D3V then yes, sometimes he can.

I never said that i was more intellegent than bluecube nor stated that he was. My post had nothing to do with intellegence or anything.

Anyways... Its the truth.

You talked about D3V acting retarded, to which Kagom replied that Bluecube (he either meant D3V, or was mistaken and thought you were saying Bluecube was dumb) acted less retarded (or more intelligent) than you at times.

That clear it up?

Sov doesn't abuse his power, IMO. He does a great job keeping shit organized and flowing at Zelaron.

Sov changed the votes.

Sov changed one vote due to NGM's reqest.

Considering the nature of this thread, don't you think that it would have been better to let someone else do that?

Yeah I don't think when his credability is at stake he has the right to *edit* somebody's vote. Bullshit, the Yes tally was higher before he 'edited' it.

According to the Whos Voted logs,
17 voted no
15 voted yes

But, 3 of the yes votes are in fact Grav's (banned users). So the correct number should be 17 no and 12 yes. So officially
17 no
12 yes
(Im not going to edit the poll at all though)

Oh, I see.