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KagomJack 2004-06-03 04:43 PM

Ok, I'm not trying to imply that. What I'm saying is that if you're sorry (trully sorry) about what you've done, you have a chance into heaven. I don't think that murderers get into heaven though. They usually have some psychological problem in which they don't care and enjoy killing.

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-03 04:59 PM

No, you're just trying to convince yourself you aren't damned.

KagomJack 2004-06-03 05:02 PM

maybe...maybe not. I believe I still have a chance. That's just me though.

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-03 05:53 PM

If you're going to continue your ways then you're going to hell.

KagomJack 2004-06-03 05:55 PM

No shit sherlock :o (j/p on you) well, I know that K_A. I have a Bible, etc.

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-03 06:21 PM

So...you think you're going to get into heaven but you know you are going to hell?

KagomJack 2004-06-03 07:42 PM

No...I don't know if I'm going to hell, heaven, or purgatory. I can only hope and pray.

HandOfHeaven 2004-06-03 08:49 PM

*cough* Purgatory don't exist *cough*.

Yes, Jesus died for all sins, but you must have faith, and believe. If you TRULY believe, you will stop your sinful lifestyle. It WAS Adam and Eve, Not Adam and Steve or Adam and Eve or Steve.

KagomJack 2004-06-03 08:52 PM

There is a purgatory...BTW, dont' give me your bullshit about having faith. Most of my life I had faith and tried to stop. I believed. I still have faith and believe. My life has been hell and I trusted God above all others. I'm not going to stop trusting God becuase of my bisexuality. But my point is: STOP BRINGING IT UP!

HandOfHeaven 2004-06-03 08:57 PM

Hey, I didn't bring it up. THERE IS NO PURGATORY, but I guess it's like talking to a rock. I am not bringing up my having faith. I am just saying you must have faith...You study the Word and then are Baptized with Water/The Word, one of the two sacraments. And you receive forgiveness through the other sacrament, holy communion. Where Jesus Body and Blood are In with and under the Bread and Wine, not transubstantiation shit.

KagomJack 2004-06-03 08:59 PM

The thing is, the Protestants changed the wording so it wouldn't be "If you do not eat my body or drink my blood, you shall never have eternal life" Purgatory is in Maccabees, but you wouldn't know that, you're a Lutheran/Protestant. I'm not here to argue religion or sexual preferences. (BTW, the "Don't bring it up" really applies to ALL of Zel, not you alone. I also know you didn't bring it up, sorry to tell you that when it was more for everyone else)

HandOfHeaven 2004-06-03 09:02 PM

I know what the Maccabees are, and they aren't in the Bible. God said in Revelation through John that whoever adds to the Bible then add to him the woes of eternal death in hell. I am Lutheran, and I will stick to that. I guess we should not bicker over religion, as it is harder than talking to a Jehovah's Witness (they suck balls and twist around what you say).

KagomJack 2004-06-03 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HandOfHeaven
I know what the Maccabees are, and they aren't in the Bible. God said in Revelation through John that whoever adds to the Bible then add to him the woes of eternal death in hell. I am Lutheran, and I will stick to that. I guess we should not bicker over religion, as it is harder than talking to a Jehovah's Witness (they suck balls and twist around what you say).

actually, we had Maccabees in the bible before the Protestant Reformation. But John said do not add or take away and do not alter the words. Prots took away and altered the words. And I'm done with the biblical debate. How are you?

HandOfHeaven 2004-06-03 09:21 PM

I'm good! but just to make it clear I am no where near Prodestant. I am WELS Lutheran. How are you?

KagomJack 2004-06-03 09:22 PM

I'm fine (Lutherans are Prot. Prot = any non Catholic or non Orthodox [Greek, Russian, etc.] Christian)

Playing the emo game, check out the thread dedicated to it :D

PureRebel 2004-06-04 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrannicide
I can't wait...that would PWN.



OMG THAT WOULD!!!

Ill be Laughing.. IM in Aussie.. Ill be in My Underground Home!! Muahahaha

it use to be a bunker and now its my house and it goes 3 stories undergound!!!

ill live LonGer Dan Joo!!

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Thanatos 2004-06-04 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
He died for all current sins, that doesn't mean you can go on a mass killing and still get into heaven.

Yes it does; you can still get into Heaven that way. All you have to do is repent. A sin is a sin in God's eyes. There is no medium between them.

Say you are a mass murderer. You go to jail and realize how fucked up your life has been and how terribly awful you have been. You get a preacher that visits your prison and tells you of God's awesomeness. You repent like crazy and don't fuck up the rest of your life. You = in Heaven.

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-04 09:50 AM

That wasn't the point I was making, what I meant is if you "know" all you have to do is repent and you can do whatever you want, that isn't right, and you're not getting into heaven, at least not in my opinion.

Demosthenes 2004-06-04 09:54 AM

From what people have told me, no matter how immoral your crime is, you can still get into heaven if you honestly repent what you have done.

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-04 09:57 AM

Which is why I don't consider myself a christian. Pretty much thats saying you can do whatever the hell you want all through your life knowing all you have to do is repent before you die and you'll go to heaven. That's utter BS.

Demosthenes 2004-06-04 09:59 AM

Then again, if you go through life with that mentality you probably will not honestly repent what you have done. On the outside you may beg for forgiveness and pray to god, but in your heart of hearts you're most likely thinking "haha I'm going to beat the system." I don't think that will get you into heaven.

KagomJack 2004-06-04 10:44 AM

that was my point -_- I know I didn't make it sound that way, but I did mean it. If you truly repent and truly mean it, you can still get into heaven, IMHO.

Penny_Bags 2004-06-04 02:36 PM

I just saw Harry Potter 3. Am I going to hell because I want Ema Watson's ass?

KagomJack 2004-06-04 02:37 PM

That's between you and God, Penny_gags

Penny_Bags 2004-06-04 02:49 PM

I'd like it to be between me and Ema.

KagomJack 2004-06-04 02:50 PM

w/e, it's between you and Ema. But it's also between you and God. :P I know you're not Christian, but if you were, that'd be my response.

Thanatos 2004-06-04 07:42 PM

Ema Watson.. is that Hermione?

KagomJack 2004-06-04 07:44 PM

I think so...not sure.

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-04 10:24 PM

Yes. Durrrrr.

D3V 2004-06-04 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
Yes. Durrrrr.

How'd you know that slaynish?

Tai 2004-06-05 12:37 AM

Super volcanos, bi's, harry potter, religion, and angry comments! My my zelaron never gets old.

I just wanna say, does anyone actually listen to a story book writen over a thousand years ago? Not much sense in that...

Sovereign 2004-06-05 12:38 AM

Iunno, same reason why some people like putting nails through their testicles. Not much sence in that either...

slaynish 2004-06-05 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mjordan2nd
Slim, KagomJack makes up all our conspiracy theories. I think he also believes the world is going to end in 2012. Interesting stuff though, Kagom.


Rofl, thats actually what i've believed ever since i've read about that indian dude that predicted white people on floating turtles would come, and they did. Then he predicted the world ends in 2012... I've believed that since 4th grade.

slaynish 2004-06-05 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Penny_Bags
I just saw Harry Potter 3. Am I going to hell because I want Ema Watson's ass?


Sorry for dbl post, but I just saw HP3 also...

Exactly what i was asking myself before i read your post.

Sovereign 2004-06-05 12:53 AM

Your replkying to two different posts. Thats now allowed.

slaynish 2004-06-05 02:00 AM

But really, please teach me how to replky...

Sovereign 2004-06-05 02:33 AM

Well first, you take a shotgun. Put the end with the hole in your mouth, and pull the trigger.

Stop being a smartass. You know what I meant.

D3V 2004-06-05 04:10 AM

Its not against the rules to reply to more than one post.

!King_Amazon! 2004-06-05 12:30 PM

Welcome to 3 posts ago.

slaynish 2004-06-05 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sovereign
Your replkying to two different posts. Thats now allowed.

Roflmao, you didnt even edit it yet.


and sov; my ass must have been going through a LOT of schooling to be smart : \


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