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D3V 2008-01-25 06:07 AM

Grav is just mad there isn't going to be a Brokeback sequel.

Grav 2008-01-25 06:28 AM

I actually just copied that from somewhere. I really couldn't care less.

!King_Amazon! 2008-01-25 07:18 AM

Your coolness factor is so much higher than everyone else's, Grav.

Thanatos 2008-01-25 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by !King_Amazon!
I find it so attractive how you don't care about anything and how you're such a non-conformist, Grav.

LOL I've been saying that for a while now. Actually I think it's..... unattractive?

By the way, who are you talking to that's acting like this is similar to Pearl Harbor? Certainly not anybody here. Nobody's taking it that hard. I think you're delusional.

Titusfied 2008-01-25 12:30 PM

Hearse Deadger.

I just keep bringing the funny!!

Raziel 2008-01-26 04:33 PM

I'm just hoping they weren't planning on bringing The Joker back for the next Batman movie.

Demosthenes 2008-02-02 02:24 PM

So the Phelps family, who protest soldier deaths, have an open letter to Heath Ledger's family a letter to disclose the location of the funeral so that they may protest it. Apparently, he's evil since he portrayed a homosexual character in one of his movies. They even claim that Heath Ledger would want the Westboro Baptist Church to protest his funeral:

Quote:

If Heath himself could come back to life for a brief period to speak to his loved ones on earth, he would lift up his voice in a hideous scream, to wit: "Listen to Phelps! For god's sake, listen to Phelps!"
For those who would like to read the letter:

http://www.goodasyou.org/westledg.png

Raziel 2008-02-02 02:27 PM

Oh, those Westboro people. They're a wacky bunch!

Atnas 2008-02-03 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny
I thought it was a shocking story, so I posted it. 28 is an extremely young age to die at.

People die even younger all the time.

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And that Westboro thing is wrong on so many levels. I would not want some preacher yelling over my dead body about how people will be damned by an all-benevolent God for a hormone imbalance.

Demosthenes 2008-02-03 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atnas
hormone imbalance.

If you're implying that homosexuality is caused by a hormone imbalance, I'd like a citation, please.

Atnas 2008-02-03 08:20 PM

There is no citation - the cause of homosexuality has not yet been determined.

I wasn't claiming that was the only cause, as homosexuality is thought to be caused by a number of different things - most commonly a mixture of biological, social, and psychological circumstances.

There is no actual proof for hormone imbalances causing homosexuality. However the traits that homosexuals possess hint at the presence of a dominant sex hormone which - in heterosexual cases - is not prevalent. One might look at a lesbian and notice she is more masculine. Masculinity is caused in part by testosterone. The same may go for gays - they are more effeminate. Ergo, more estrogen.

I'm not making broad generalizations, as each case differs.

We have really only been studying homosexuality for a short time, as it has recently become more common.

My thought on the prevalence of homosexuality in recent times (and possibly metrosexuality) is that pesticide usage is a key factor.

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I love being proven wrong; it's some sort of academic masochism.

Do me in.

Grav 2008-02-03 08:23 PM

Are you aware that the Greeks and Romans had widespread homosexuality as well, far before the prevalence of pesticides?

Atnas 2008-02-03 08:32 PM

They promoted homosexuality in their armies.

Demosthenes 2008-02-03 08:32 PM

No, I wasn't trying to prove you wrong. I just generally keep up with such things, and hadn't heard that a hormone imbalance caused homosexuality.

You may be interested in checking out information on a gene called xq28, however. If you're interested, I could get you pdfs of some papers.

Atnas 2008-02-03 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mjordan2nd
No, I wasn't trying to prove you wrong. I just generally keep up with such things, and hadn't heard that a hormone imbalance caused homosexuality.

Sorry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjordan2nd
You may be interested in checking out information on a gene called xq28, however. If you're interested, I could get you pdfs of some papers.

I'd love to read them. Just by looking at the wikipedia entry on it, I can tell it isn't confirming evidence of anything, as the results of the data collection are not consistent. But I think that illustrates the idea that there is no one definitive cause.

D3V 2008-02-06 10:02 AM

Well, an update has been announced, it's officially stated that an accidental overdose was the cause of his death.

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Originally Posted by CNN
Medical examiner's office: "Manner of death is accident"

"Brokeback Mountain" star, 28, died January 22 in a New York apartment

The 2005 film won Ledger an Oscar nomination for best actor

Colleagues say actor had been suffering respiratory ailment

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ger/index.html

Titusfied 2008-02-07 11:23 AM

Dead.

Adrenachrome 2008-02-14 02:05 PM

I hate that they call it an "Accidental overdose" his ingestion of those drugs was NO accident, he knew he was taking drugs and did it anyway, don't gte me wrong I liked the guy, the movies I saw him in were epic and he was a phenominal actor, but he didn't accidently take 6 different drugs

Thanatos 2008-02-14 02:19 PM

I hear that. There is no such thing as an accidental overdose, IMO.

Adrenachrome 2008-02-14 02:26 PM

maybe in the rare circumstance that you take the wrong pills for some sort of illness, you know,,,, You need to take 4 of your diabeetes pills but somehow 30mg oramorph made it into your scrip bottle


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