Revolution in Iran [Archive] - Zelaron Gaming Forum

D3V

2011-02-14, 02:31 PM

Protesting begins in Iran

Much like in Egypt, the citizens are tired of the dictatorships that control the population of their people.

Power to the people!

Anti-government demonstrations swell in Iran; clashes reported

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/14/iran.protests/index.html?hpt=T1
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/WORLD/meast/02/14/iran.protests/t1larg.iran.protest.gi.afp.jpg

tl;dr

Protesters diverted to side-streets were beaten and gased, wtinesses said
At least 15 people were detained
U.S. Secretary of State Clinton called for an opening up of the political system in Iran
Unverified YouTube videos show demonstrators burning posters of Khamenei

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News travels too fast. This is the perfect example of how the vast expansion and speed of traveling information benefits mankind. Just imagine if all dictatorships could end due to simple things like youtube, twitter, facebook. Everyone has a voice, and everyone can now be heard.

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It has begun. You can do it Iranian people.

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!King_Amazon!

2011-02-14, 03:12 PM

If nothing else, this is a great example of how perception is everything. The only reason our government is as it is is because most people feel apathetic or feel like they are unable to do anything to change it. The same is true of Iran, except now they are seeing countries in similar situations where people are uprising against the corrupt dictatorships. Nothing in Iran has changed other than the peoples perceptions of their power.

Also, there's no doubt in my mind that the internet will continue to be a tool of revolution. Wikileaks/4chan/etc have shown the power of the internet pretty well IMO. But be prepared to start seeing backlash from the people in power attempting to stop it. The powers of the world are not blind, I'm certain they know about this already, and I'm also certain that they are terrified by it.

D3V

2011-02-14, 03:17 PM

They are absolutely terrified of it. Egypt tried to bring everything down, and there were instantly tons of way around it. Even companies like Google assisted in helping with phonebanks, and they set up number to call and record a message that would be put out as a Tweet on the RevolutionEgypt page. I love it, but you're right perception is everything. But really, does Iran have a good of a chance? They've had plenty of protests before, and the military alway wins. They're going to need an all out effort to get something accomplished this time around.

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-14, 04:47 PM

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2011-02-14, 06:04 PM

Also, there's no doubt in my mind that the internet will continue to be a tool of revolution.

And porn. Let's not forget the porn.

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-14, 06:07 PM

That goes without saying.

Skurai

2011-02-14, 08:39 PM

Skurai

2011-02-14, 08:40 PM

They've had plenty of protests before, and the military alway wins. They're going to need an all out effort to get something accomplished this time around.

That's why I say we fight Iran's government. No matter how bad war sounds, we can still help the innocent who can't defend themselves.

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-14, 08:47 PM

Skurai

2011-02-14, 08:53 PM

We've pretty much been setting up to take on Iran over the past 20 years. We have pretty much got them surrounded. I doubt it will happen, but we are definitely ready to do it if necessary.

Taking on Iran will be nothing like Iraq, though. War with Iran is serious fucking war.

I guess I'll sign up for the military, then. If I can help the innocent, protect The American soldiers, and get a "free" job, then good. It's also a nice chance to try channeling spirits, since I personally can't stand violence.

D3V

2011-02-15, 08:14 AM

We've pretty much been setting up to take on Iran over the past 20 years.

I don't think we'll have to. I'm hoping a revolution can take charge. Look at what's happened lately. Supression.

Iranian lawmakers condemn protests; call for execution of leaders

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/15/iran.protests/index.html?hpt=T2

tl;dr
Lawmakers call for the execution of opposition leaders Mehdi Karrubi and Mir Hossein Moussavi
A European Union official urged Iran to "fully respect" the rights of its citizens
Protesters were largely cleared from the streets by Monday night

The calls for the leaders' executions come after a particularly deadly month in Iran. At least 66 people were executed in January, according to Iranian media reports. Most of the executions were reportedly carried out for drug offenses, although at least three involved political prisoners, a U.N. statement said.

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!King_Amazon!

2011-02-15, 08:35 AM

Most of the executions were reportedly carried out for drug offenses

Drug Jihad?

D3V

2011-02-15, 09:48 AM

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The level of opression in Iran is far greater than that of in Egypt. The backlash could result in more casulties.

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I think the outspoken level isn't as high because of this face. I think they're still scared to speak out, they've got to be.

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-15, 10:05 AM

Rightfully so. Egypts military pledged to not attack protesters. They will get no such guarantee in Iran, I'm sure. Their government has no problem gassing/slaughtering them if necessary.

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-15, 10:56 AM

Apparently they think this is all a plot by the US

Iranian authorities have repeatedly accused opposition leaders of being part of a Western plot to overthrow the Islamic system.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41595002/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

D3V

2011-02-15, 11:45 AM

You know, I was going to post something about that but wasn't sure what it was all about. I seen an interview on RussiaToday on YouTube, well here let me find it:

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Damn bitches, keep our name out yo mouth. This isn't George Bush era were talking about. We have a competent president who is mindful of his surroundings.

I mean there's a video of their lawmakers calling for death to the ones leading the protests, and they're fucking chanting it. Are you kidding me? How does that make us responsible. I'd be pissed off and revolt too if our politicians did some crazy batshit insane stunt like that.

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-15, 12:45 PM

Well their society is based on batshit insane. And so is ours to an extent. Different flavors of crazy.

Skurai

2011-02-15, 08:35 PM

To overthrow the Islamic...wat
The more I hear about Muslims, the less I like them. They're all... strict and stuff.

D3V

2011-02-16, 10:32 AM

To overthrow the Islamic...wat
The more I hear about Muslims, the less I like them. They're all... strict and stuff.

What are you even talking about? You're belligerent.

In other news, Protests seem to be continuing in the region as North Africa seems to have some of their own.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/16/muslim.world.unrest/index.html?hpt=T1

TL;dr
Source: Several people arrested after police confronted protesters in Benghazi, Libya
In Yemen, calls for better curriculum turns into an anti-government protest
In Bahrain, protesters camp out at a landmark
In Iran, thousands turn out for a funeral of man claimed by both sides

http://www.cnn.com/video/world/2011/02/15/dougherty.cnn.640x360.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12477275
Libya protests: Second city Benghazi hit by violence
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51291000/jpg/_51291684_011288687-1.jpg
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51284000/gif/_51284126_libya_beghazi_2011.gif

I'm so glad to hear this continuing.

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-16, 11:42 AM

Have you heard about the protests going on in Wisconsin? They aren't quite in the same league as this stuff, but they've got the national guard on alert.

D3V

2011-02-16, 11:53 AM

Trolling? No I haven't but I will go look it up, intersting.

Yes, you weren't lying!

Protesting really works! This is power to the people at it's finest point. Make your government work for you, not against you.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/national/021611-schools-in-wisconsins-capital-close-after-protesting-teachers-call-in-sick

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/15/wisconsin-state-workers-p_n_823476.html

Wow, I hope this escalates.

Skurai

2011-02-16, 10:07 PM

Has the Roman Empire American Government fallen yet?

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-16, 10:47 PM

Willkillforfood

2011-02-17, 07:37 PM

We've pretty much been setting up to take on Iran over the past 20 years. We have pretty much got them surrounded. I doubt it will happen, but we are definitely ready to do it if necessary.

Taking on Iran will be nothing like Iraq, though. War with Iran is serious fucking war.

Besides China, there's probably not another country that could match our prowess in a traditional war atm. The problem is that there is no traditional war anymore. If we just went to war with Iran to wipe their army off the face of the planet, we would probably lose less people to their weapons than to friendly fire and accidents.

Skurai

2011-02-17, 08:55 PM

I find it funny that the Roman empire is the only one you could think of to compare to America. If you adjust for the advances that humans have made since then, we pale in comparison to the Roman empire. Maybe once we take over the world.

Oh, I know. I'm sure we had the Spear of Destiny at some point, but hey, you win some you lose some. The point is, we keep getting less and less stable, and our citizens are too stupid to do anything about it, while our government is constantly arguing about who gets the front seat of the car. We're about ready to fall to pieces.

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-17, 11:37 PM

Change will come, but it is unlikely that our outcome will be the same as the Roman empire.

Skurai

2011-02-18, 06:32 AM

With all the war and revolt going on around the world, it's only a matter of time before a full "terrorist" group (of Americans) forms and rebels.

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-18, 09:09 AM

It's also only a matter of time before an asteroid smashes into our planet and wipes our entire species out. Like I said already, everything dies. You are just stating the bovious.

Skurai

2011-02-20, 08:56 PM

It's also only a matter of time before an asteroid smashes into our planet and wipes our entire species out. Like I said already, everything dies. You are just stating the bovious.

Not if we build a laser shield to protect us! Mdselctr! Jamer123!! I summon you both! We have a job to do.

D3V

2011-02-21, 11:08 AM

Protests in Libya

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/21/live-blogging-north-africa-middle-east-protests/?hpt=T1

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/02/21/t1larg.yemen.protest.gi.jpg

Goin biblical on their ass:
http://www.sify.com/news/libya-protest-gaddafi-s-son-warns-of-rivers-of-blood-news-international-lcvwahdihia.html

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!King_Amazon!

2011-02-21, 11:33 AM

When protesters are taking over military bases and commandeering tanks, you know shit is about to go down.

Unfortunately, Gaddafi will probably be less likely to be peaceful, and more likely to steamroll the protesters as a result.

D3V

2011-02-21, 11:57 AM

Apparently he already has been. That's the thing, Mubuarek *sp* never wanted force against the people, but sent the military out to protect the masses, apparently. Shit hit the fan, i'm sure the US along with other EU countries urged him to GTFO and he basically did in a short amount of time.

Sometimes shit needs to hit the fan in order for real change to take place.

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-21, 12:09 PM

That's the thing, Mubuarek *sp* never wanted force against the people, but sent the military out to protect the masses, apparently.

This is not true. He ordered the military to slay the protesters and the military said "we are not killing our own people."

http://www.americablog.com/2011/02/mubarak-ordered-tiananmen-style.html

But the critical moment came on the evening of 30 January when, it is now clear, Mubarak ordered the Egyptian Third Army to crush the demonstrators in Tahrir Square with their tanks after flying F-16 fighter bombers at low level over the protesters.

Many of the senior tank commanders could be seen tearing off their headsets – over which they had received the fatal orders – to use their mobile phones. They were, it now transpires, calling their own military families for advice. Fathers who had spent their lives serving the Egyptian army told their sons to disobey, that they must never kill their own people.

D3V

2011-02-21, 02:14 PM

The comments on that page are hilarious.

Grav

2011-02-21, 02:37 PM

Oh, I know. I'm sure we had the Spear of Destiny at some point, but hey, you win some you lose some. The point is, we keep getting less and less stable, and our citizens are too stupid to do anything about it, while our government is constantly arguing about who gets the front seat of the car. We're about ready to fall to pieces.

The really dangerous part, from my perspective, is that you are one of the stupid citizens. And you have no idea.

Skurai

2011-02-21, 09:46 PM

You don't know me. You can't even keep up with me.

D3V

2011-02-22, 10:26 AM

You don't know me. You can't even keep up with me.

Stop cluttering my thread, you fucking faggot.

Gadhafi speaks as world leaders discuss Libya's future
# Moammar Gadhafi addresses the country on TV
# U.N. Security Council meeting under way
# A witness in Tripoli says a massive protest is expected Tuesday night
# Eastern Libya appears to be under opposition control

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/22/libya.protests/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Isn't Gadhafi the one with some legitimate mental issues, possibly dementia?

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-22, 04:40 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41718646#41718646

Eastern Libya is no longer under government control. Military forces have supposedly defected and are handing out heavy weapons (mortars, artillery rounds, RPGs, etc.) to protesting civilians. Shit is going to go down.

Wed-G

2011-02-22, 07:46 PM

Stop cluttering my thread, you fucking faggot.

Clutter started with Grav, and continues with me. Skurai had a right to respond. His statement there was probably one of the most well thought statements I've ever seen him post.

!King_Amazon!

2011-02-22, 08:47 PM

Clutter started with Grav, and continues with me. Skurai had a right to respond. His statement there was probably one of the most well thought statements I've ever seen him post.
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Skurai

2011-02-22, 09:14 PM

It's fine, Wed-G.

It's amazing that the military not only refused to attack (which was incredibly touching to hear), but now are giving out weapons. This story would make quite a movie, in a few years.

D3V

2011-02-23, 10:26 AM

Holy shit. It literally is going down.
Reports: Libyan aircraft crashes after troops refuse bombing orders
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/23/libya.protests/index.html?hpt=T1

Pilot and co-pilot eject, refusing bombing orders, a newspaper reports
Opposition figure says the pilot was ordered to bomb oil fields
NEW: International Criminal Court says U.N. Security Council could refer matter
Minister steps down, joins protesters, then is reported kidnapped

Sometimes mutiny is a really good thing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/world/middle_east/11/libya_tripoli_map/img/libya_tripoli_624map_1.jpg

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51391000/jpg/_51391945_011348701-1.jpg

Iran isn't so widely reported on. Nobody really knows what, if anything, is going on there.