08 Caucus

[Afroman]

'08 Iowa Caucus.... who's going to win?


Well, the time that gives us another 10 months or so before the actual Election is finally here.. Both sides are still very, very close, and I Know this topic has been beaten into the ground, but this could really be very important in the next 4 years or so, so being involved is a great thing IMO.

On the Dem side Kucnizch (sp) has announced that if he doesn't not have 'significant' support, he will then 'merge' with Obama and put his support towards him, in doing so I definately see Obama winning the Caucus, and carrying enough motivation through the primaries and genuinely up to the general election.

As for the Republicans I do see Huckabee winning Iowa, but NOT the primaries, I think Mitt Romney is a much safer pick, as more light-hearted Republicans will get out and vote in his favor.

Just my opinion, what do you guys think?

[!King_Amazon!]

Huckabee or Romney will win the primaries on the republican side, Hillary, Obama, or Edwards will win the primaries on the democrat side. Here are all of the combinations I can see possible in the '08 election.

Hillary Vs Romney = Hillary Wins
Obama Vs Romney = Obama Wins
Edwards Vs Romney = Edwards Wins

Hillary Vs Huckabee = Huckabee Wins
Obama Vs Huckabee = Huckabee Wins
Edwards Vs Huckabee = Edwards Wins

I think if the democrats want someone who will win, Edwards is the best pick, as Hillary is a woman and Obama is black and both will be hurt by that. If the republicans want to win, Giulianni is probably their best shot, as I think he would beat any of the three democrats I've listed, but I think it's unlikely he'll be facing any of them. If not Giulianni, Huckabee is their next best pick as far as who will win.

Now, as far as who I WANT to win, Obama. If not Obama, Hillary. If not Hillary, Edwards.

[Dar_Win]

I used to like Edwards until someone sent me a bunch of facts on how he's just a slime bag lawyer.

[!King_Amazon!]

I don't like him either, but at this point I'll take just about anything over a republican.

[Thanatos]

I just registered to vote yesterday.

Obama in '08!

[D3V]

I agree with you for the most part K_A. I just can't see Huckabee over Obama though, or even Romney over Obama, it'd have to be a much larger leap over the other side of the street like McCain or Giuliani, but nonetheless the time is finally here and I suppose we can see who will win Iowa and possibly take the other remaining Primary states.

And on another note, for Edwards. He seems like a decent guy, yes he may be a lawyer and generally they are slimeballs, but it's more-so the Republicans are very afraid of Edwards because if he was pitted up against them he would easily dominate the crowd and election IMO because he's a very likeable guy. I mean honetsly, they're spouting off about his hair etc etc etc is the main argument I ever hear from him, I mean, atleast he still has hair... fuck fred thompson

[D3V]

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/images/2007-01-08_Obama_Klein_Time.jpg

Oh, and here's who i'm voting for..

[Willkillforfood]

If Hillary gets the ticket we might be fucked into another Republican president again, imo. Obama is a VERY likeable guy, moreso than Huckabee even if you ask me. Sure, he may have grown up around Muslims but who gives a shit? We need some legitimacy with the muslim world as it is. I have plenty of muslim friends at college and they kick ass.

[D3V]

Seriously, the Hilary supporters are still bought that Obama doesn't have enough Experience, which really doesn't register with me. He had a brilliant quote a while back saying that "Look, between Bush,Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld they have had some of the most experience in U.S. history, and look where they've taken the country"..

-Fucking brilliant is Obama, he's always got an answer for something, and this country really could benefit from him getting the nomination. But back to the experience thing, besides Hilary being in the Senate for a little tad bit, she doesn't have much more experience than Obama, if you consider her being in the office with Bill then you should also justify that being enough experience as fucking Laura Bush to run for office, and fuck, if that's the case than go back to George Washington and let 'ole Martha Washington run, jesus.

[Xenn]

Obama won

[!King_Amazon!]

Obama and Huckabee. Huckabee kicked Romney's ass, and Obama kinda kicked Edwards'/Hilary's asses. Hilary got 3rd, owned.

[Xenn]

Obama won the female vote too, which is pretty funny

[KagomJack]

My mom is anti-Obama because he didn't put his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance.

[Kaneda]

Wow. How dense is she?

[Lenny]

Though you all might like this article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7170954.stm

It's got pretty graphs. :)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44334000/gif/_44334514_iowa_result203x416.gif

[Thanatos]

So much for Ron Paul going anywhere.... hahahaha

[D3V]

My mom is anti-Obama because he didn't put his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance.

http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/barack-obama-refused-to-say-the-pledge-of-allegiance-youve-been-played-for-a-daggone-fool/

Tell her not to be such an ignorant hillary thumper.

[D3V]

Hope is the bedrock of this nation, the belief that our destiny will not be written for us but by us, by all those men and women who are not content to settle for the world as it is but who have the courage to remake the world as it should be," he said. "That is what we started here in Iowa and that is the message we can now carry to New Hampshire and beyond."



an excerpt from last night's caucus..

[Willkillforfood]

I like Obama. He goes on Colbert's show a lot :D. He got the colbert bump ;).

[D3V]

They actually tried to compare late night talk show hosts, as Obama went on Jay Leno and Hillary on David Letterman...blah.

[KagomJack]

http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/barack-obama-refused-to-say-the-pledge-of-allegiance-youve-been-played-for-a-daggone-fool/

Tell her not to be such an ignorant hillary thumper.
My mom's Republican. She also claimed that the story was all over the news (i.e. Fox News). I never had heard anything until she said that.

[Grav]

I'm relieved that Guiliani is last (even beyond Ron Paul, rofl!)

I'm worried by Huckabee coming in as the top Republican pick. We'll see.

Obama getting first is a nice surprise. I expected Hillary -> Obama -> Edwards. I wonder what NH will think.

[!King_Amazon!]

Giuliani skipped Iowa, it's not a suprise that he's last. He's still like #1 in the nation I think.

[Grav]

Ah, disheartening. Oh well.

[D3V]

Iowa definately flipped the tables on a few aspect. First off we have Obama taking down Hilary and now apparently is double didgit leading the polls for New Hampshire.. which is nice for somebody like myself that is supporting Obama (somebody that both parties like, unlike Hilary that so many people have a problem with..)

And then you have the Republican side where Huckabee basically took over Iowa, some are calling it faux and that he's got no momentum for NH etc, I don't really buy that myself though, I wouldn't doubt atleast seeing him in the top 3, and for Giuliani, here in Florida he's been campiaining for the win and I really do hope it backfires, I can't stand Giuliani, for the most part I only see Mitt Romney signs floating around, but we'll see.