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!King_Amazon!
2007-08-16, 09:04 PM
There's breaking news here, the rescuers got collapsed on at the mine here in Utah. From what they are saying, 11 injuries, 1 in very serious condition, and 2 in serious condition.

Willkillforfood
2007-08-16, 09:08 PM
Yea, my father's a mine rescue person and he says they'll probably call off the rescue now that this has happened. It's tragic but it's just too dangerous for the rescuers.

!King_Amazon!
2007-08-16, 09:16 PM
Well, they're still doing drilling on the surface, and since that's relatively safe, they will probably keep doing that for a little while.

They never should have had people in the mine anyway, the miners are like 3 miles in and the people trying to get in are working 12 hour shifts busting their asses for nothing, they're getting practically nowhere.

The1
2007-08-16, 10:02 PM
Well, they're still doing drilling on the surface, and since that's relatively safe, they will probably keep doing that for a little while.

They never should have had people in the mine anyway, the miners are like 3 miles in and the people trying to get in are working 12 hour shifts busting their asses for nothing, they're getting practically nowhere.

I heard they were making 27 dollars a hour...

Willkillforfood
2007-08-16, 10:38 PM
That's not much more than normal overtime if any for them. One of the was killed and 8 injured.


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Two more died =(.

D3V
2007-08-17, 07:53 AM
That's horrible, the company that hires the people to make sure that shit is safe needs to be put in prison, along with any inspectors before this happened.

!King_Amazon!
2007-08-17, 08:25 AM
3 dead 8 injured now, from what I understand.

D3V
2007-08-17, 08:27 AM
Yep, what it says on Yahoo, atleast. Shitty man..

Thanatos
2007-08-17, 08:31 AM
We need to rescue the rescuers. Start the rescuing process!

gruesomeBODY
2007-08-17, 08:43 AM
damn this blows.

!King_Amazon!
2007-08-17, 08:45 AM
Meanwhile somewhere around 500 people in peru are dead, 1500 or so injured.

In Iraq, suicide bombers killed like 400 people.

I think the world is coming to an end.

D3V
2007-08-17, 08:48 AM
Texas has been flooded for about a year now, and another Hurricane coming their way. Etc etc.

Thanatos
2007-08-17, 08:57 AM
About time.

D3V
2007-08-17, 08:58 AM
Oh and you left out that Mike Vick still hasn't faced any jailtime, the world MUST be coming to an end.

The1
2007-08-17, 10:00 AM
It's sad that they cant reach the guys but their prob dead already.

Willkillforfood
2007-08-17, 10:58 AM
A lot of the miners there feel like they'll dig up their bodies any minute because the truck with the 6 miners was right behind one that escaped pretty much RIGHT before the collapse.

-Spector-
2007-08-17, 01:44 PM
Damn I've been following this story since the origonal collapse and this is moderately depressing....

The1
2007-08-17, 02:40 PM
Question will they keep digging till they find the dead bodies ?

Willkillforfood
2007-08-17, 04:03 PM
Rescue efforts are suspended indefinitely.

Vollstrecker
2007-08-17, 04:11 PM
Rescue efforts are suspended indefinitely.

The smart choice, if not the most humane to victims' families.

HandOfHeaven
2007-08-17, 05:15 PM
They should be getting paid more than $27/hr for that shit. I think they need to come up with a machine-rescuer so that there are no more rescuer casualties.

Willkillforfood
2007-08-17, 05:17 PM
I don't think I'd work there for any amount of money. When those sides explode in the "mountain bumps" it shoots fragments of rock out as shrapnel at amazing speeds. It's like getting shot by a shotgun I'd think (if they're small projectiles, cannon if they're large).

Vollstrecker
2007-08-17, 06:11 PM
They should be getting paid more than $27/hr for that shit.

People work in equally dangerous professions elsewhere for less, they knew the risks when they took the job. /shrug

I think they need to come up with a machine-rescuer so that there are no more rescuer casualties.

I wouldn't trust a preprogrammed robot to dig me out, wireless controls would reach their limits fairly quickly without humans placing relays in the mine shaft, and wired controls would have a host of problems within the mine shaft as well. It honestly isn't really feasible from a business standpoint, especially with how rare mine collapses are in the first place.

It'd likely be cheaper to pay for the labor and possible death benefits, from a purely business standpoint.

!King_Amazon!
2007-08-17, 06:12 PM
Are you sure the rescue efforts are suspended? I doubt they would stop the drilling because of this. I could understand them stopping the rescue efforts IN the mine, like people going in and digging.

-Spector-
2007-08-17, 06:29 PM
I believe I read they will keep drilling, but no more rescue digging

!King_Amazon!
2007-08-17, 07:31 PM
They sure as hell better not go back to digging.

Really, when you're trying to rescue 6 guys that probably didn't survive the cave in and almost surely haven't survived all this time, and 3 rescuers get killed with 8 injured, I think that means it's time to stop.

Vollstrecker
2007-08-17, 07:56 PM
They sure as hell better not go back to digging.

Really, when you're trying to rescue 6 guys that probably didn't survive the cave in and almost surely haven't survived all this time, and 3 rescuers get killed with 8 injured, I think that means it's time to stop.

Some guys got killed in a hole they dug because they weakened the land overhead too much. The obvious solution is to go dig them out. :rolleyes:

Willkillforfood
2007-08-17, 10:06 PM
They pretty much underminded the entire granite mountain/hillside and it's sitting down on them =(. Miners normally go through relatively soft coal ...I think some of this they're going through is granite which is much much harder.

!King_Amazon!
2007-08-17, 10:23 PM
I don't know why they ever bothered trying to dig their way in. Drilling is much more practical.

Willkillforfood
2007-08-17, 10:44 PM
Not really. If different compartments are blocked off it's going to take many weeks to drill to each of them if not months (if they can get to all of them or they don't bring in more drills). If the stability were there they could probably have been most of the way through with their mining. But the conditions just aren't good enough.