New Build Ideas

[SlickFic04]

Idk about you guys but I constantly try and think of new builds, mostly targeted for dueling but new builds non the less, so far I've come up with two, but I am also interested if you guys have any Ideas and also constructive critizism of my builds.

Builds:
Psn Dagger Necro
Skills: 20 psn dagger, 20 psn explosion, 20 psn nova, 20 bone wall, 1 bone armor, maybe 10-20 in lower res, rest into bone prison.
Gear: fury fanged knife, coa?, ss, angelic ammy + ring, fort?, shadow dancers, lava gouts/sanders, dungos, raven frost...idk havent covered all the angles yet.

Conviction Zealot
Skills: 20 conviction, 20 zeal, 20 holy shield, 20 defiance, 20 sacrifice
Gear: Beast zerk? Coa, eth exile, eth shaft stop?, highlords, raven, bk, shadow dancers, lava gouts, dungos...idk havent covered all the angles yet.

Your thoughts?

[Medieval Bob]

Well, on the necro, if you're just going for uber damage, refer to here: http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26464

Sub the trang's claws for Blackbog's Sharp.

As for the Pally, I can't give a lot of input. I never played one, but it seems sort of cookie cutter to me. Additionally, you know you couldn't put that build into effect until level 98, right? I don't know if level building is as slow as it used to be, but 98 is a bit high-end for me.

[SlickFic04]

Sacrifice would have to be last to max out, and it would take a long while to level unless i just get a gmerc which is possible. And its not really a cookie cutter build, no one else has tryed conviction w/ melee. I guys no one has really realized that it reduces someones defense to shit, however u sacrafice dmg.

The necro is poison dagger not psn explosion therefore he wouldnt be wearing any caster gear unless leveling. This necro is lookin at 410%+ to ar while a zealot has 325%+ given he wont have as much ias but all he needs is 2 hits, pending psn res. Also I gave more thought to it and he would only use 10 pnts into lower res. His low defense is my main concern since the bone armor will only sorb like 1 maybe 2 hits. Just realized, instead of cursing them with lower res, i could use a lvl 1 weaken which reduces there dmg 33%, that along with dr and bone armor...could prolong my life a lot.

ps. sov just gave me another build idea, bow/ww assassin, widow maker on w1 and chaos on switch. So far the skills would have to be venom, bos, wep block, claw mastery, and rest into df = 107 skill pnts. I'm all excited now, ps this is what I do at my hedge fund internship.

[Medieval Bob]

The point of caster gear is to up your poison dagger damage. The only reason you wouldn't want that gear is if you were just going to be a melee necro with poison dagger as sort of a bonus. If you're relying on poison to do your damage, you're going to need +skills stuff to get that poison damage up.

As for low defense, you just need to keep bone armor up. It's a hit-and-run build. You stab once or twice and then back up to put bone armor back on.

[SlickFic04]

This is a melee build against conc barbs and zealots. As in, you say go, they so go and then u just and hold down the left click lol. But recasting bone armor might be a good way to do things, we'll have to see, plus ill need massive fhr

[Kaneda]

Psn Dagger Necro
Skills: 20 psn dagger, 20 psn explosion, 20 psn nova, 20 bone wall, 1 bone armor, maybe 10-20 in lower res, rest into bone prison.
Gear: fury fanged knife, coa?, ss, angelic ammy + ring, fort?, shadow dancers, lava gouts/sanders, dungos, raven frost...idk havent covered all the angles yet.
That gears alright. Like bob said its for a melee + a psn bonus. The armor is a must of either a nigma or a bramble. +2 skills or - massive psn res (plus other obvious bonus' of each armor)

Personally I think melee you would get owned because conc has waay to much def for you to get AR without fucking fanta or something. Same if zealot is using a exile, plus he can attack 5 times faster and you would have weak def.

Fleshripper (Is nice for mods probably = to fury, but I think a Balrogs would be better)
One-Hand Damage: (45-60) To (174-228) (108-144 Avg)
Required Level: 68
Required Strength: 42
Required Dexterity: 86
Durability: 36
Base Weapon Speed: [-20]
+200-300% Enhanced Damage (varies)
-50% Target Defense
25% Chance of Crushing Blow
33% Deadly Strike
50% Chance of Open Wounds
Prevent Monster Heal
Slows Target By 20%

[Willkillforfood]

Try a Barbazon instead =P.

[Sovereign]

Make an Avenger.

Vengeance(sp) paladin.

[SlickFic04]

Na Im making my bow/ww sin. 20 in: claw mastery, wep block, venom. 15 in: bos and fade. 1 to: df, shadow, mb, and more. I was thinking of an avenger but then i realized i could make it use zeal and pwn melees cuz with that aura their defense gets turned into shit.

[Kaneda]

Im making a in town Golemancer. >.< Yes. Soo BM.

[Sovereign]

Fire Golem + lower resist = PIPE BOMB!

GGGG i wanna see it in action when its done :P

[Kaneda]

They do explosion dmg when killed? Hmmm with alot of +5/-5 fire facets...

I've also added a GM duel element to my Golemancer. Quite detailed actually but it'll only work vs melee.

[Medieval Bob]

Well hell. If you're just looking for fire dmg, I've already got your gear set up for ya:

Ormus +15%Fire +3Meteor (5/5 Fire Facet)
Eschuta's Temper +3 Skill, +20%Fire (5/5 Fire Facet)
+3 Fire Skills Amulet
Lidless Wall (5/5 Fire Facet)
+3 Fire Skills Circlet (5/5 Fire Facet)
Soj x 2
Arachnid Mesh
Magefist
10 Fire Skill Charms
Annihilus Charm
*Whatever for boots

[Sovereign]

I THINK they do fire dmg when they are desummoned. I don't have a necro that we can test this out on though :(

[SlickFic04]

I got a necro we can test it out. And MB, idk about the echutas and the fire skills helm will work on a necro. just get a 4os shield and put facets (or phoenix), 4os armor, facets, 3os bv, facets, 6os cs, facets. rinse and repeat.

[Medieval Bob]

Hrm. I didn't even think about the fire skills not working. So I guess for this build, besides the things that are strictly +skills, you'll want to just go with facet socketed gear.

Make sure not to trade off too much +skills gear for a couple of extra open sockets, though. The high-end bonuses to +skills are pretty. It's worth testing on a skill calculator. Unfortunately, I'm leaving right about meow.

If anyone actually intends to make this build and doesn't know how (or someone else doesn't) do the skill/dmg comparison, I can get to it later. Just don't let the thread die, so I'll see it later on.

[SlickFic04]

I Made my ww/bos sin and well lets see, ww barbs own her (obv) so do smiters, good h-dins, gay max block wind druids, some zons, and of course max block necros with high fhr. Otherwise the rest is ez pk, hence the name Fics_EzPk :). the bow really helps vs hdins and fleeing casters who are pussies. All in all....its a pretty decent build, can get pretty expensive tho, right now I got some cheaper gear, I use chaos with nats set w/ 3 x 5/5 psn facents in nats armor, eth in nats claw, tgods, trang gloves, highlords, soj (found :) ), raven. But I also have a bramble so I was thinking of using bramble, hotspurs, kiras (coa would be perfect but too expensive atm), fury claw w/ chaos, bk, soj, highlords? wtv the good thing about this build, gear is pretty cheap except chaos claw and bramble, but use nats set and ur all good for some ez pk's booya!

[HandOfHeaven]

Oh, about Eschuta's. That is a sorceress-only item, so that good idea has been ruled out.

[Medieval Bob]

Ya, and without the +skills, a 6 socket wep with fire facets is better anyhow.