new runewords?

[zygoat]

would any of the builds items up there change since the new ladder runewords i think they were made b4 ladder season 2 was realseased so does anyone think a different gear for something would better fit it now?

ie. would a fortitude be better then coh for a v/t?

[Sovereign]

LoL?

Fortitude:

Body Armor
All Resistances +25-30 (varies)
Damage Reduced By 7
12% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
+1 To Light Radius

Don't think so -.-.

V/t's are going to start using the grief runeword. WIth it people say they will be doing 7k smite.

I'm guessign BM blizz sorcs are goign to merc it up with infinity mercs. With that they will be unsorbable.

Never really thought of anything else.

[zygoat]

my friend has a fortitude that has 300ed on it as body armor...i think the Arreat Summit messed up or soemthing cause that runeword in an armor adds 300ed

[Kaneda]

I'm making a blizz sorc right now pretty much for that reason. I was thinking about making a barb, and seeing how many total auras I can have w/ the aid of a merc(Doom,Dream,Bramble,Beast/Pheonix-switch, Merc-Infinity maybe Pride,Dragon ) that would be tight. But I was going to make a blizz sorc neways so I'll go that route for now.

[zygoat]

well that is perdy stoopid...but w/e floats ur boat, but i still wanna reply about my friends 300ed(damage) fortitude...if i knew how to post s/s's i would have him email me a screenie but everytime i have tried to post before it says file is uploaded and thats it...

[DamonGalos]

http://www.planetdiablo.com/images/image.asp?/expansiond2/items/runes/images/fortitude.jpg

Looks like it has some 300 EDam and Edef there to me along with a host of other nice mods...

Arreat has it wrong I think.

If that screenshot is accurate Sov do you think Fortitude might be better than Enigma/CoH...or even Duress (OW mod is nifty) for a V/t?

[zygoat]

is better for anything melee yea you lose some skills and some resist but that ed and base def is nice all in its own...as for enigma if you wanna make any kinda caster then enigma just better to tele with

[Sovereign]

I went and got a 160/60 armor from my friends zon and put it on my v/T. I compared the damage from that to the damage with btals. It was less. Unless that 300% edmg is somehow glitched into the equation, it is a horrible armor.

Id take a nigma over it any day.

[zygoat]

even for a melee...why? only good it has for melee is the 2 skills (enigma)

[HandOfHeaven]

I think they had Fortitude as the weapon characteristics for a week or so, but maybe they saw it was too uber and made different armor stats?

[zygoat]

ok well heres what myFortitude has:

Archon Plate 1461 <~~~THIS IS MY ARMOR!!!
20% Chilling Armor when struck
25% faster cast rate
300% EDam
200% ED
+15 defence
+xxx life (Based on Clvl)
+5% max lightning resist
+28 resist all
Damage reduced by 7
12% damage goes to mana
+1 light radius

heres what Arreat Summit says:

Weapons
20% Chance To Cast Level 15 Chilling Armor when Struck
+25% Faster Cast Rate
+300% Enhanced Damage
+200% Enhanced Defense
+15 Defense
+(1-1.5)-(99-148.5) To Life (Based on Character Level)
Replenish Life +7
+5% To Maximum Lightning Resist

Body Armor
All Resistances +25-30 (varies)
Damage Reduced By 7
12% Damage Taken Goes To Mana
+1 To Light Radius

by the looks of it they just said fuck it and combined the 2

[Sovereign]

For melee IDK. I full planned to strip my concentrate barb when I heard of the new runewords, so I never cared to look into it. What you can do is have eth temp armors. Make a few of those runewords in eth armors (with hugh dura prefereably) and use those.

Heres my idea on this subject.

REember that youd have to change your gear for max DR. With a PERFECT dr COA you will only have a grand total of 46 damage reduction. This is assuming you have perfect dungo's as well. You also don't have a free socket open in your armor that you could possibly 40-15.

With a LEVI(25) All you need is a pdungo (15), and a low coa (10%) This will enable you to potentially pit up to 120% edmg extra in jewels alone. A perfect LEVI would have I think +50 str. Thats so fa a total of 170% edamage. A high levi can also have 1700+ defence. In a paladin or concentrate barb, that equates to much extra def.

I really don't know though. These new rune words are going to ruin melee dueling. ANd I'm probably wrongon everything that I've said above.

[zygoat]

with all that gear to =120% edmg thats pathetic...a fortitude would give you more then double that in the armor alone and you could still get upper DR with pdungo p coa and a ss or w/e else there is...

[Sovereign]

You do realize that all damage builds usually get the shit kicked out of them?

Example: Lidless sorc vs my Max Block ES Stormshield Sorc.

Who can take more ww's? SURE shell be doing 21k+ dmg and I only 16K, but that 21K is useless when you die from 1 ww or zerk. ? You have to take defence into consideration.

[zygoat]

got you a point...so instead of the coa, dungo, and ss, or w/e just build up some massive def that way you would have the better of both worlds

[HandOfHeaven]

Hmm, to find out the 'glitch' I'd say make another fortitude and see if it has combined stats.

[zygoat]

it does, every single fortitude i have seen has had combined stats ill talk to kaneda next time i see him on and have him take some screenies cause when i take em that turn out bad and i dunno how to upload them to zelaron, so ill have kaneda for you guys

[Sovereign]

Bah who the fuck cares. Melee is retarded.

99% of them are ebayers

Just wait till ladder resets and go into palapk pr PN games and check out the ebayed zealot/barb gear.

[zygoat]

if i remember correctly you carry some melee characters in your crew...right? sov so then you must ebay too...shameful

[Sovereign]

99% all of a sudden means all of them?

My concentrate barb has been naked for a long time.

[zygoat]

99% is a very large statistic...for you to be one in the how many play? million hell who cares, but for you to be one is kinda unlikely with the statistics you have thrown up...

[Sovereign]

Obviously you took my number literally, which only reinforces my theory that you are a stupid retard. Either that or a horrible smartass.

What I meant, to clarify so you never get confused agian, is that a lot of people who melee have ebayed gear. Not everone, but a majority.

Is that better for you?

[HandOfHeaven]

Ebayers are fucking retarded. I don't see why people waste their money on data to be adequate in a game.

[zygoat]

i like to be literal what else should you be??? why joke never joke around...dont PMS on me sov i know we can make it through this...

anyway dont get all defensive

[Sovereign]

So if I were to tell you that suv is as big as a moutain, you think theres going to be an 18,000 ft tall car driving up to my driveway?

I wasn't being defensive, I was clarifying. It just so happens that my style of clarification inludes calling people out on retarded comments they made. It's funny you'd think i'd pms and lose my temper about a game on a forum, especially by something that you posted. :laugh:

Anyone know which of these runewords would be good for an auradin. My friend says hes making one that can 'pwn anything'. I highly doubt that as I have no problem sorbing any current chars. I cant think of which new rw's he'd use..... Lot's of them have auras when equipped.

I need to be prepared so I can slaughter his auradin -.-

[DamonGalos]

I need to be prepared so I can slaughter his auradin -.-


If he's competent and its just for pvp he's probably going to be looking at a Dragon/Dream combo (a permutation of Dragon Shield, Hand of Justice, Dream helm, Dream shield which will give him about 30 Holy Fire, 30 Holy Shock...at least if I remember correctly) and probably maxing the resists to synch, conviction, and charge.

There are vengeance versions, zeal versions...versions with fanaticism instead of conviction...versions where you use holy freeze as well...but he'll probably be using what I just mentioned.

Watch out for splash damage but I dont think Auradins can own everyone...any more than chargers normally do at least. Basically its just a new version of the one hit chargadin and instead of just massive physical damage you're boosting with elemental and getting some splash damage too.

The problem is instead of using classic charger gear you're sacrificing DR and other mods for those auras. Your damage reduction will be ...umm...like zero outside of your dungoes belt and you have nothing to socket to fix that really. I'm sure you can still make a basic version of resists, +life, IAS (if needed) and FHR breakpoints somehow between the item mods, gloves and charms and if the HoJ is in a PB or something but......its going to become a crapshoot for you (then again aren't most chargers?).

I personally think the zeal Auradin makes for a far better pvm and I'll probably make one myself one day.

As a side note, I doubt he'll be a hybrid (like a Judicator for instance) as you need those points for the synchs in the resist auras as well as conviction to make the auras worth it...I say see if he's a charger or a zealer and play accordingly with the note of splash damage. I doubt it would be easy but given the amount of runes he needs to make this I should hope not.

[ExT]

LoL @ sov!

Auradin are just a crappier version of your basroil, if you get your conviction to negate his conviction, basroil will have no problem taking down an auradin. It's all about negating the conviction.

3 pieces of dragon doesn't even add as much damage as 2 pieces dream so your friend will most likely be a physical/elemental.

PS: I'm also gonna make one :D

[zygoat]

HELPFUL HINT DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT use a fortitude on a smiter lol...

with the 300edmg it adds an astonishing '3' damage not 30 not 300 not even 3000 but 3...so i take it with smiting 100ed = +1 dmg

[tidus2005]

no i dont think so but it might be that while it says 300% ed that it actually doesnt give it to you. Not like it matters because enimga is still a superior rune word because it allows you to have base str which allows for a ton more life. and +1 strength is the same as 1% ed, and if that is not enough to please you remember that enigma also has +2 skills which is more damage and also increases the level of your BO.

[zygoat]

i think it does help you...but idk for fact, lemme ask my friend today when i get home he use to use a fort on his barb but has recently switched to enigma so ill ask him if the fort actually added the 300edmg