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LuNaTiKpLaYa89
2004-07-30, 11:06 AM
Ive decided that i want to regear my zealot once again but i dont know what armor to get. cant afford eth tmight and eth cara and all that so any other suggestions?

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-30, 11:12 AM
enigma or some pwning CoH mayb ??? well id advise u a good enigma

LuNaTiKpLaYa89
2004-07-30, 11:16 AM
before i sold gear i had 13xx def archon enigma. he wasnt so good them and i had eth zerk on him. got him another eth zerk and he is using exile too but im not sure what armor to use. and for amulet should i use highlords?

Joka69
2004-07-30, 11:26 AM
highlords is decent use a Coh or like levi if u have 2 or even a stone archon

LuNaTiKpLaYa89
2004-07-30, 11:28 AM
i was thinking about CoH...but i dont see whats so good about it except resist and skills...

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-30, 11:34 AM
uhu, i never use(d) coh, for some reason, i think its a waste of runes

Blackadder
2004-07-30, 11:54 AM
I would stick with the enigma its the best for a zealot,theres nothing that can beat it for armour.

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-30, 11:59 AM
yes and it gives jOO teh fuckin 5% life, 8% dmg to mana, +2 skills and ofc teleport

JestinDeCourts
2004-07-30, 04:32 PM
r u USWest?...if so i can sell you tmight for a wisp, and dwarf star....

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-30, 04:37 PM
Tyraels Might ????????????
for only a wisp and a dwarf ????

Ganga
2004-07-30, 04:41 PM
templar might...


anyway, use levi, IT'S THE BEST!!!!

kockblocker1
2004-07-30, 04:44 PM
How about giving up'ed Guardian Angel a try?

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-30, 04:48 PM
dunno why people stick to levi...... then u better try upped GA like kock said

Sovereign
2004-07-30, 04:50 PM
It can have 1700+ def and 25 dr. That sounds pretty good to me. I'm sure there are better though. (Never made a character that needed ubar high def godly armor, so I know nothing about high def arms)

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-30, 04:52 PM
for def ??? then ur better off with eth stone sacred armor :p

ethereal for ur merc !!!!! (sorry voll, signature is gone for 5 days :()

Sovereign
2004-07-30, 05:07 PM
Theres no dr on a stone. It has + to str and vit and some resists...

Knocking off 1/4 a melee attack is pretty nice....

Of course.

Endurack
2004-07-30, 05:14 PM
WTF, you people know nothing about zealots, NOTHING not a damn thing. All these posts are the dumbest suggestions i have ever read~!. I WILL ANSWER YOUR ARMOR QUESTION AFTER I FINISH PUTTING SOME SENCE INTO YOUR HEAD AND YOU STOP FOLLOWING THE DUMBASS PUBLIC NEWBS WHO THINK EXILE AND EBOTD ARE GOOD!

NUMBER 1: Defense IS NOT IMPORTANT, everyone has insane AR so unless you have over 35k FORGET IT. Besides, 90% of Diablo 2 are casters WHICH ALL IGNORE DEFENSE. If you plan on only doing zealot duels, then make a build that moves around low defense such as mine and i fucking own high defense pallies and i only have 9k def! 9k thats it! I have 9k defense and i can kill people with 25-35k+.

NUMBER 2: EXILE SUCKS TERRIBLY BAD, no block, no + skills, no AR bonuses no DR, no STR, NO NOTHING. It fucking blows for zealots NEVER USE IT.

NUMBER 3: Eth Zerkers (eBotD's) SUCK TERRIBLY BAD FOR ZEALOTS, I MEAN TERRIBLY 170-550 DAMAGE = NT IT SUX. Your average damage will be more fucked up then 90 year old Grandma Joe having a over does of Viagra! If anything, use a eBotD War Spike. It doesl ike 220+ - 370+ which is MUCH MUCH better. If your rich invest into a Etheral Death Cleaver or Ethereal Razor Edge.

Now for your armor, use a "Duress" Archon or Shadow Plate. This armor gives you +133 Cold Damage, a max of 20% Enhanced Damage, 15% Crushing Blow, 33% Open Wounds, 45% Faster Hit Recovery and heavy defense since you care so much about it~!

If your smart and can make a good zealot use a 160/40 min or 160/60 IAS ELITE armor with life or FHR. My paladin uses a 160/40/24% FHR armor and i only get 9k defense and i do like 2,298 - 7,200 with a 99% Deadly Strike Chance and i just beat the living shit out of noob ass exile users.

You wanna make a zealot come talk too me, good god if i ever see posts like this again...my god where have the zealot duelers gone...

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-30, 05:21 PM
i hope ur not looking at me, cuz i only told ppl my oppinion

and how bout the enigma ?

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-30, 05:30 PM
my pvp barb has only 16k so i know Def 90% of the times doesnt matter -.-
why enigma not that good ???

+2 skills
+5% life
8% dmg to mana
those are just some i can think of

Sovereign
2004-07-30, 06:13 PM
WTF, you people know nothing about zealots, NOTHING not a damn thing. All these posts are the dumbest suggestions i have ever read~!. I WILL ANSWER YOUR ARMOR QUESTION AFTER I FINISH PUTTING SOME SENCE INTO YOUR HEAD AND YOU STOP FOLLOWING THE DUMBASS PUBLIC NEWBS WHO THINK EXILE AND EBOTD ARE GOOD!

Wanna shoot yourself now? Stop being a jackass. Seriously. Not everyone spends minute after minute calculating the best weapon the get a 4ps zeal on a fucking bone fetish[/joke]. Not every person can afford these godly gears taht cost more 290's then some people have seen. So kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP.

NUMBER 1: Defense IS NOT IMPORTANT, everyone has insane AR so unless you have over 35k FORGET IT. Besides, 90% of Diablo 2 are casters WHICH ALL IGNORE DEFENSE. If you plan on only doing zealot duels, then make a build that moves around low defense such as mine and i fucking own high defense pallies and i only have 9k def! 9k thats it! I have 9k defense and i can kill people with 25-35k+.

::claps::

NUMBER 2: EXILE SUCKS TERRIBLY BAD, no block, no + skills, no AR bonuses no DR, no STR, NO NOTHING. It fucking blows for zealots NEVER USE IT.

You know what, I'm gonna recommend people use it, just in spite of you. Call it immature, I don't care. It worked for me in average duels, and that's all that matters

NUMBER 3: Eth Zerkers (eBotD's) SUCK TERRIBLY BAD FOR ZEALOTS, I MEAN TERRIBLY 170-550 DAMAGE = NT IT SUX. Your average damage will be more fucked up then 90 year old Grandma Joe having a over does of Viagra! If anything, use a eBotD War Spike. It doesl ike 220+ - 370+ which is MUCH MUCH better. If your rich invest into a Etheral Death Cleaver or Ethereal Razor Edge.

Your making them sound like fucking act 1 carver drops. They aren't horrible, they work well enough.

You're arrogant, full of yourself, and annoying.

Endurack
2004-07-30, 06:54 PM
And you a immature, usless piece of DNA nub that knows nothing on this subject what so ever so stop trying to get on your little foot stool and cut me down so you can be above me cause your just making yourself sound more dumb by putting a useless post here when i already stated the facts that everyhting you and most other people here said was complete stupidity. Its not arrogance or anyhting, its simple facts whats the best and what sucks. It doesnt take time to figure out that a weapon doing better average damage is going to calculater better damage and its better to use, its common fucking scense.

Average duels you say, 80% of B.net are newbs that know nothing about this game just like you know nothing. Shut the fuck up, sit down, and read so you can learn some stuff from your superior players.

Ganga
2004-07-30, 07:05 PM
I am siting down, waitng to hear more.

Sovereign
2004-07-30, 07:13 PM
OH NOES. I am a nub!!! I HAVE FAILED AT LIFE. INstead of meticulously playing the game I prefer to just play for fun. Oh no!!!!! Endurac called me a nub. I must really suck now!!!!!!!

I know nothing, oh noes!!!!! The narcisistic schmuck who has never seen me plays is telling me i suck!!11!111

Good job nitwit. Get a life.

Your build sucks monkey cock quite frankly. Its centralized on zealot vs zealot duels. Who the fuck wants just a zealot vs zealot. What's the fun in that. You go get as much gear as you can. Find a zealot. Left click zeal, and hold it. Wow, what skill, you can sit there and watch a computer program similate strikes that you can't even control. It's not a matter of skill, its a matter of which zealot can bot more to get 'godly' gear.

Also, I don't care one iota if you were the TOP player on battle.net. You could be the most gosu mother fucker out there, that doesn't mean you have to throw down everyone else's ideas by calling them a dumbass and act like a jackass. SOme people can only afford an exile, some people can only afford a zerker. If that's what they wanna use, if that's how they have fun so be it. They aren't a dumbass for not devoting so much of their life on a stupid game.

This forum is here to present ideas for each other. No matter how bad they sound, they can be spoken. You have NO right to call people dumbasses just because they don't have as godly of a build as you. Keep up the stuck up insults to other people and I have a special title reserved for you/

Ganga
2004-07-30, 07:19 PM
Sov, you are a sup mod, i don't think it would be very proper for you to flame here, else greekstar going to take your sup mod position!

Well bad enough to get someone riped on a trade, IS BAD.

Sovereign
2004-07-30, 07:22 PM
Eh even I get pissed sometimes. I'm only human :p

platnum
2004-07-31, 12:30 AM
What are botd's and exils cheap on nonladder or something now? I always thought they were pretty expensive, but I am fully ladder now.

SlickFic04
2004-07-31, 09:48 AM
And i have had a zealot for a long while and def wins duels, id like to duel ur pally endurak cuz i have never lost to someone who has less def than me, oh and i have owned every silly pally out there who uses the 160-60ias armor, great u got nice ias and dmg but what happens when u cant hit me? U LOOSE, im not sayin my pally is the greatest but for like 3 months straight all i did was melee duels and its usually the guy with the greatest def and ar wins. but id still like to melee u endurak cuz i am interested to see if u would win.

Sovereign
2004-07-31, 11:08 AM
Cheap as fuck compared to eth dc ect.

Endurack
2004-07-31, 11:47 AM
Soverign is a DUMBASS, YES A DUMBASS, how the hell are you a mod when you post nothing but useless comments and flames. Your a waste of fucking space on here. You dont know a damn thing about this game and you act like you do its hilarious.

Slickflic04, as for a duel im on USWest Non-Ladder if your on that realm msg me at:
*Endurack
*Endurack2
*Endurack3
*Endurack6

I play manner so if you plan on BMin me thats fine. I can only recall two times i lost to a BM Zealot and thats beacuse they both had life tap and like 50% slow so i never got many hits in.

I have destroyed countless paladins with over 30k defense its very easy cuz i can kill people in a hit and have lower AR then most (11,800 which is enough to hit a 36,000 Defense opponent), if your better then average it takes 2-4 hits to win. Defense is useless on paladins unless your dueling a barb. When i have 9k defense and can hit 30k+ defense paladins and kill them in like 3 hits, you wasted your time trying to get defense.

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-31, 11:50 AM
Soverign is a DUMBASS, YES A DUMBASS, how the hell are you a mod when you post nothing but useless comments and flames. Your a waste of fucking space on here. You dont know a damn thing about this game and you act like you do its hilarious.

watch it bud, Sov is NOT a dumbass, he helps alot of ppl and i think U are wrong and HE is right on this one. Even if he would be wrong, u have no right to call him a dumbass because he cares about some other people and doesnt have to win every single duel.

And btw, its Sovereign, not Soverign....



11,800 which is enough to hit a 36,000 Defense opponent
I didnt know that your defense affects your attack rate/damage/lowers other players defense ? And actually defense DOES matter, i tested it, i saw it, i KNOW it.

Sovereign
2004-07-31, 11:52 AM
Im more an averge fun duelers, you know, one of those 80 percent of 'newbs'. Side's , why the fuck waste my time and items, trying to beat that 'elite' 20 percent. I just unhostile those people and go on my merry way. Your into obsessive playing, im into fun playing. Calling me a dumbass for posting my ideas is just plain retarded.

timmay1113
2004-07-31, 11:58 AM
Dude I'm totally with Sovereign. You need to stop calling everyone a fucking noob just because they don't treat d2 as real life. Most people, DONT GIVE A SHIT. They play the game for fun so leave them the fuck alone when they are just trying to give helpful suggestions and don't be a stuck up prick and insult everyone calling them dumbasses. I'm very sorry that most users on this forum don't treat d2 as their only purpose in life like you do, so please for the love of God stop being a dick and calling us dumbasses because we don't devote our lives to a video game.

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-31, 12:01 PM
because we don't devote our lives to a video game.

argh, dont say that
---> we WILL devote our lives into video games, but we'll take it in a good way and have lots of fun ^^

Sovereign
2004-07-31, 12:01 PM
Lol, to each his own :p

timmay1113
2004-07-31, 12:02 PM
ok well you have FUN with it but this twit takes it too fucking seriously

Sovereign
2004-07-31, 12:03 PM
Lets all be nice, and give the noob endurack the benefit of the doubt. Back to zelaot armors children! ^_^

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-31, 12:06 PM
i bet he's one of those players that cant wear any of his gear cuz he actually doesnt has the str for it, and calls people like me noob for wearing a high-strenght enigma (and those are LOTS ppl)

WELL I LIKE TO LOOK COOL, that kinda people are really pathetic, the only thing they care about is winning a duel
(i have 36X str with my stuff on so i dont see the fucking problem....)

edit: oh well, when i hit the reply button sov's post wasnt there yet... erm.... ENIGMA ROXOR !!!!!11

slaynish
2004-07-31, 12:10 PM
Soverign is a DUMBASS, YES A DUMBASS, how the hell are you a mod when you post nothing but useless comments and flames. Your a waste of fucking space on here. You dont know a damn thing about this game and you act like you do its hilarious.



You motherfucker.

Even IF sov was wrong, how dare you call him names?

He's a superior mod, and im sure he could get admin in the next year or so. He could easially give you a warning, and likely wait for you to do it again. You, my friend, are a waste of 'space' so to say. You are the one that flames people. You are the one that always tells people otherwise. You are the one that treats d2 like your life. You dont know a damn thing about this game and you act like you do. It is hilarious.

Ganga
2004-07-31, 01:27 PM
watch it bud, Sov is NOT a dumbass, he helps alot of ppl and i think U are wrong and HE is right on this one. Even if he would be wrong, u have no right to call him a dumbass because he cares about some other people and doesnt have to win every single duel.

And btw, its Sovereign, not Soverign....




I didnt know that your defense affects your attack rate/damage/lowers other players defense ? And actually defense DOES matter, i tested it, i saw it, i KNOW it.


Oh my god, I didn't finish reading this post but it's so funny!!! Come on people, if you guys actually read what these people write, you guys should see my complaint wasn't that bad.

Endurack
2004-07-31, 01:41 PM
Wow look at that 50 more posts of useless and idiotic comments, buncha 15 year olds posting things that D2 is my life now thats funny. This game is very simple to understand i major in programming and Computer 3D-Modeling i know how this game is written and its very simple to understand. I give the facts, the suggestions i lay down are 99% of the time better then anyone here. I post reasons why they are better and the proof why they are and you patehtic fools keep posting useless information without any explanation. The fact is 160/40 and 160/60 and Duress are much better then most armors you people posted. Enigma is not a #1 option its not even used much on zealots. Get 60,000 Defense on your paladin be my guest ill pump my AR to 20k and hit you just as much as i hit you with 11,800 AR. I have no idea why you people post things that you know nothing about. For example:

"I didnt know that your defense affects your attack rate/damage/lowers other players defense ? And actually defense DOES matter, i tested it, i saw it, i KNOW it."
Dr. Geekstar you know nothing. You probally saw a lucky duel. Theres no theories on this game, theres nothing but facts due to the game being based on a program done by calculations. Facts like the ones i give, Theres facts thats it. The fact is the game is programmed to do calculations and defense does not matter. WHen you know 1 thing about programming you let me know, and i challenge you to find a program where theories actually exsist.


I can say anything i wish beacuse i know what im talking about and you people know nothing and thats very, very obvious. I play this game to challenge myself, no game is fun without a challege. You people cry and run when good people beat you. Get some balls and take a challenge.

Sovereign, you calling me is the funniest thing i have read on this forum. You know nto 1 damn thing about this game and have never given a better suggestion then me. You post on things you know nothing about and just keep posting spam its funny. Make yourself useful and learn the game before you talk.

celaron
2004-07-31, 01:47 PM
am i wrong, or is there not also a normal dmgreduce of the ber? :confused:

edit:
+750 to+775 defense
+14 life after each time u hit an enemy! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+45% faster run/walk (is quite nice)
+0.75 str/charlvl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --> means dmg ^^
+2 to all skills !!!!!!!!!!!! means more skilldmg
+1 mf/lvl (well, its nice)
+1 to Teleport(very nice sometimes ^^ even if u have no mana, then u hit an enemy and leach some, and tele on)
,max life +5% !!!!!!!!!!!!!11
15% damage to mana !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
dmg reduced with 8% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lvl req: 65 IS QUITE OK


i had a ELITE gris set pala, with all the PERFECT legit?! juwels and charms in it, he had like 8x % chance to double dmg (deadly strike) and made in old ladder ehm i think 5xxx average dmg, that will result in 8k with Deadlystrike

one problem: no dmg reduce!!! that sucks!
advantage: u can call u a ruler if u can handle him with draculs and the leach! its for pvm, never tried it with pvp, even if the attack speed was SOOO fcking fast!!!!!^^

and highlords is the best choice i think for a zealer.

ehm what about the boots guys?
i mean wt(war travs) got +15-25dmg!!! str and vite and so on, i think its nice?
any better choice?

BTW I GOT A ed/ias AND a ed/maxdmg armor with life!!!!
IT SUCKS (with my wf bitch and my drui and my barb and my pre-patch zealer!!!!!)

i really tend to enigma, because of the load of dmg red and so on, but i made some !!!! to the thinks i like with enigma!

(upped schaft i adore at 2nd place gg, was my first L thingy for my starting pally ^^)

timmay1113
2004-07-31, 02:21 PM
We are not talking about your suggestions Endurack. We are talking about your childish name calling. Your calling everyone noobs and dumbasses. How about just throwing in your advice in a civil manner like most people do.

Endurack
2004-07-31, 03:06 PM
I say that due to it being true, as i said these people here post things acting like they know what they are talking about. What kinda idiot uses a Tyreals Might on a zealot? And why would you use Stone when you can use duress to gain 100's of points of damage and effects with the same deffense. Its obvious thats a dumbass, i can call anyone whatever the fuck i want too,call it childish if you want i got my point across and the fact is Sovy nub is a noob so are 90% of the other people who posted things on this thread. It doesnt take much thought to realize whats better then somethign else. If you cant handle me calling you a dumbass gtfo and cry in a corner.

Slim
2004-07-31, 03:15 PM
Ok, I know I don't know shit about D2, but I'm bored so here goes. Endurarck, honestly, shut the hell up. Being a prick will not gain you any respect no matter how good you are. Try being a civilized human being and maybe, just maybe, your suggestions would be heard. You know, maybe these people don't have enough for the gear you're suggesting, so they would like a lower grade of gear for their char.

In short, STOP BEING A POMPOUS ASSHOLE.

Dr. Geekstar
2004-07-31, 03:43 PM
I say that due to it being true, as i said these people here post things acting like they know what they are talking about. What kinda idiot uses a Tyreals Might on a zealot? And why would you use Stone when you can use duress to gain 100's of points of damage and effects with the same deffense. Its obvious thats a dumbass, i can call anyone whatever the fuck i want too,call it childish if you want i got my point across and the fact is Sovy nub is a noob so are 90% of the other people who posted things on this thread. It doesnt take much thought to realize whats better then somethign else. If you cant handle me calling you a dumbass gtfo and cry in a corner.

hey mate, we were talking about mercs :rolleyes:

Sovereign
2004-07-31, 04:05 PM
Sovvy? That's what dan's girlfriend calls me... you look like a shave yetti too?

Sovereign, newb and proud of it, because he plays to have fun! Not to be an obnoxious know it all asshole!

timmay1113
2004-07-31, 04:09 PM
Endurack has got some serious attitude problems. I brand him Asshole Grade A.

Sovereign
2004-07-31, 04:10 PM
LoL. Just go back to talking about zealot armors and let sir pompous mouth off as much as he wants. Nobody will listen to him if nobody has any respect for him.

celaron
2004-07-31, 05:07 PM
just to repeat this!:
Nobody will listen to him if nobody has any respect for him.

i read his comments first time, but maybe because i used to stuck in these, the d2 forums, only!

ok, i will NOT put this into my sig ;) :
Sovereign, newb and proud of it, because he plays to have fun!

SlickFic04
2004-07-31, 08:21 PM
Aight well basically enigma, t-might, stone unless over 2k def, are pretty useless in zealot duels. I disagree with endurack 100% with his def does nothin belief, since i have duel'd plenty of pallies with enduracks equipment and i em own 100% of the time. Personally i use an eth g-bane about 2.19k def w/ cannot be frozen and half poison duration, which allows me to double ber my coa and have hi DR with hi Def. The only people who beat my pally have better Ar and Def its that simple. I personnally love zealot vs zealot duels cuz its like showin off that ur build/equip is better than the other persons. Dont get me wrong if u have godly equip and a crappy build ull get own by someone with shit like endurack and even worse someone equiped with 09 gear. So for armor suggestions, eth g-bane is prob the most inexpensive way to go since eth t-might, eth cara, eth val are quite expensive Also eth exiles are good, so are eth botds yes eth DC would be the best or maybe even Eth rune master w/ some nice runes/jewels inside :) . And sorry endurack i cant own u since ur on west too bad.

LuNaTiKpLaYa89
2004-07-31, 08:46 PM
lol 90% of the thread is just about endurak not my armor >.<

Vollstrecker
2004-08-01, 01:33 AM
Endurack: I'm not even going to bother replying to any of your Flames. You do NOT Flame in the D2 section. A few comments can slide, but not the shit you just pulled. Read the rules, you're responsible for knowing them. You've just been issued a 'Warning'. Do it again, and we're gonna have a problem, do you understand?

Now, the reason people fucking VISIT these boards is to request information, ergo, they are noobs at whatever they are requesting information on? Reminding them of that is decidedly pointless? Yeah, thought so.

Sovereign is a Supreme Moderator that merely happens to play D2. He's not supposed to be gosu, he's not supposed to know everything, he's not required to even post his fucking opinion on the matter. Once again, your flaming him is entirely pointless. Drop it.

I don't want a fucking response from you in this thread unless it's a public apology for being an asshole. Further Flaming in recent light of your Warning will now result in a Banning, and I will shitcan the post you make.

That is all. Apologize, or don't post again in this thread.

slaynish
2004-08-01, 03:05 AM
That is all. Apologize, or don't post again in this thread.


Better yet.

Apologize, or don't post in zelaron again.

We dont need his stuck up comments about how he's better than everyone else anyways.

We were a great community then, and we'er having problems now... Maybe getting rid of a few odds and ends wouldnt hurt?

Vollstrecker
2004-08-01, 03:13 AM
I don't think that is necessary.

slaynish
2004-08-01, 03:16 AM
I don't think that is necessary.


What kid?

You wanna fight?

Sovereign
2004-08-01, 03:17 AM
SLaynish, his gf could bitch slap you to death. This thread is closed. -.-

Vollstrecker
2004-08-01, 03:18 AM
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