Sov's abusing Powers? [Archive] - Zelaron Gaming Forum

D3V

2004-07-16, 12:42 PM

Lets see.

He's been editing people's posts all day. Banned like 6 accounts, including Grav's. Actually this past week has been a bad week where he has been making bad mistakes, and I was wondering if anybody else felt the same way I did....

Ah yes, and he brought up the fact that *I* was breaking the TOS, when in fact (MJ pointed out) The whole thread was a violation. None the less most of the stuff he posts are in violation, probably 60% of the posts on Zelaron are in violation, but Soverign likes to pick out which Threads he wants to edit the fuck up / close. Sounds like communism.....

State your opinions, please..

Sovereign

2004-07-16, 12:44 PM

Guess I'll have to crack down on rule breaking posts more now, won't I?

By the way, I closed that thread because it was in violation of the ToS.

D3V

2004-07-16, 12:45 PM

And how was that?

If thats the case, your gonna have to remove all of the threads with and F*U**cking curse words in them, aren't you?

Thats probably ... err... 100% of the threads....Go for it, see how long it is before your de-modded.

Sovereign

2004-07-16, 12:47 PM

"Although the administrators and moderators of Zelaron will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Zelaron, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message."

I'll just start from this thread on :).

D3V

2004-07-16, 12:48 PM

Edit* Quit changing the subject Soverign. If you delete this thread, it will continue, another member will pick it up. The talk has begun, I told you not to push it but you going around, screwing with people's posts. Deleting threads with nothing wrong with them, the same quality posts that have been there created by yourself and other 'mods/admins' that violate the rules.

It's ok, nobody is really on yet that'll voice an opinion..... You'll delete it sooner or later when your integrity is questioned by several members. Good thing you happened to ban grav before he made the '4 names'. Thing is, you ip banned him to begin with and the names were made after. You banned him for 'flaming' you in 4 different sections, but nobody else gets banned, hmm. Thats right, you've banned everyone.

Sovereign

2004-07-16, 01:02 PM

If I wanted to delete this thread, it would have been gone.

I'm only doing what the members want! I mean, gotta follow the ToS, right!?

Don't worry, D3V. You're thread will remain here.

uncapped

2004-07-16, 01:07 PM

Let him do whatever he wants. Not my problem.

Demosthenes

2004-07-16, 01:25 PM

Sovereign, why's he temped?

Sovereign

2004-07-16, 01:28 PM

He broke the ToS by posting more profanity.

You guys wanted me to follow it verbatim, and I will.

Demosthenes

2004-07-16, 01:33 PM

He broke the ToS by posting more profanity.

You guys wanted me to follow it verbatim, and I will.

http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?p=427628&highlight=fuck#post427628
http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?p=426863&highlight=fuck#post426863
http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?p=426670&highlight=fuck#post426670
http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?p=426486&highlight=fuck#post426486
http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?p=425988&highlight=fuck#post425988
http://www.zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?p=426229&highlight=fuck#post426229

Need I go on?

Sovereign

2004-07-16, 01:34 PM

I know. And I'm sorry for my past misdeeds. From this point on though, rest assured, you will see a new Sov!

Penny_Bags

2004-07-16, 02:01 PM

A naked one?

Sovereign

2004-07-16, 02:03 PM

I wouldn't scar ANYONE on this forum, like that.

Penny_Bags

2004-07-16, 02:05 PM

Who says that some people on this forum wouldn't like it?... say... someone that isn't me... maybe TacoX... wait he is gone... nevermind, keep your w33n in your pantalones

D3V

2004-07-16, 02:08 PM

Sov has been editing people's posts all week, closing threads, and banning people. Please voice your opinion, and try to stay somewhat on topic.

Jamesadin

2004-07-16, 02:45 PM

Banning, editing, and closing threads are all a part of doing your job. You have to do those things. You have to ban people. Basically 90% of the job is editing, and fixing threads.

Thanatos

2004-07-16, 04:15 PM

Why was Grav banned?

Slim

2004-07-16, 04:18 PM

He made 4 threads in 4 seperate parts of the forum, all aimed at bashing Sovereign. (None in the flame forum.)

kockblocker1

2004-07-16, 04:24 PM

He made 4 threads in 4 seperate parts of the forum, all aimed at bashing Sovereign. (None in the flame forum.)

What was Grav's beef with Sov anyway?

Slim

2004-07-16, 04:25 PM

He's Grav, he's never really had a reason to hate people from what I've seen. He just enjoys/enjoyed being a self-centered egotist and an asshole.

Thanatos

2004-07-16, 04:32 PM

That shouldn't get him banned though. You know he's just antagonizing Sovereign. When Grav gets banned like that, he wins. Derrr.

Slim

2004-07-16, 04:41 PM

Then why did he keep making new names? Obviously he didn't expect any repercussion for what he did, and by recieving them, he didn't win.

Swoosh

2004-07-16, 06:51 PM

Fact is, Sov breaks his own rules constantly. He gets high and dicks around, then is all "oops my bad" the next day. Tired of this nonsense.

Slim

2004-07-16, 06:54 PM

Call me fucking Jesus.

Didn't you say something about stopping the arrogance? That may have been a joke, but still.

Randuin

2004-07-16, 07:09 PM

I've been against Sov since day one, he was a idiotic tard before he became moderator what's gonna stop him from being one after? People don't change.

But lil puppet Chruser trusted him. That fag

Slim

2004-07-16, 07:32 PM

Which is why I said "That may have been a joke, but still."

KagomJack

2004-07-16, 09:03 PM

1) Have some more respect for Chrusher, he's not a little puppet.

2) Sov isn't always a bad guy, there are times when he's pretty decent.

3) People can change, give Sov a chance.

uncapped

2004-07-16, 09:11 PM

Stop trying to get with Sov, you bisexual bastard.

HandOfHeaven

2004-07-16, 09:12 PM

For Jamesadin's sake and for the good of the forum, this post has been removed by it's original author

KagomJack

2004-07-16, 09:23 PM

You know, I don't really like Sov, but I'd defend him. You guys really need to grow up right now. I know I act very immature, but man, you people really need to be a little more mature.

uncapped: bite me
HoH: give it a rest...

D3V

2004-07-16, 09:49 PM

Look ... I made this thread because fucking Sov was editing several of my posts because I was flaming Bob and his Girlfriend. Now, I got pissed off, and flamed him, he closed some of my threads. And he fucking banned me. He said I was violating rules, which I was. But he was not enforcing them on anybody else. It is a fucking joke, he BANNED me but saved Bob's EX by editing her post, along with Penny_bags. I know that he had a problem with me, but he shouldn't stoop down to that level.

Slim

2004-07-16, 09:54 PM

At least he unbanned you. You shouldn't of went as low as to insult Bob for going out with Jinx, either (at least I THINK that's what you did, as I didn't see the post and can only assume, please correct me if I'm wrong.)

slaynish

2004-07-16, 09:55 PM

Did you ever think that he doesnt fucking like you?

If i was a supmod i would fucking ban every retarted person on the boards. Which is... You and... Yourself

SovisaTyrant

2004-07-16, 10:01 PM

akjg;dsljkgf

uncapped

2004-07-16, 10:04 PM

Mr. Lincoln says that post is gonna be deleted fairly soon.

EDIT: Yup.

Slim

2004-07-16, 10:04 PM

He cannot tell a lie.

D3V

2004-07-16, 10:14 PM

Look what grav told me:

You guys are so full of shit.

What FOUR threads? I posted three things, then was
banned.

Then I posted in the FLAME FORUM, where FLAMES go. It
was a FLAME.

Then you edited one of my other posts replying to Bob
in the FLAME FORUM.. what the crap?

You even had yourself banned from the FLAME forum
because YOU CANNOT HANDLE BEING INSULTED.

Know why I did it? I wanted to get some attention here
because I'm tired of your abuse. You act like
you own the fucking forum.

Know who really owns the forum? Us. The users.
[And Chruser and WW] If you got rid of
us, what would you have? You, whacking off to a screen
with 81 guests who can't figure out how to sign up to
ask for dupes.

So I want us to be treated better, not as if this is
some state prison. This is a community, I come here to
talk to people because I've become friends with them
over time. I can't even talk to those freakin' people
anymore because they are all getting turned away by
your bullshit.

You guys want to operate a shitty forum? Fine.
But tell me now, admit if you're giving up, so I
can just leave and spare myself the effort of
trying.

Get your head out of your ass, Sov, and hurry up with
your retiring. This is not your forum, even if
it is your life. It's our forum.
Stop trying to shape this forum to be your
perfect little dream world.
You might need this forum, but this forum's members
don't need you.
who is this

Ganga

2004-07-16, 10:15 PM

BoRiNg, comon I thought this controversy going to bring up some interesting posts to read, you guys are fucking suck.

Ontopic: Poll show 50% people on this fourm think sov abusing his power, DOWN WITH SOV!
(take no offend sov)

Sovereign

2004-07-16, 10:15 PM

Yeah, there is a Flame forum post with that message too.

Slim

2004-07-16, 10:22 PM

http://zelaron.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31233 there it is.

D3V

2004-07-16, 10:31 PM

Slim is in the 'alliance' be careful!

Sovereign

2004-07-16, 10:34 PM

There is an alliance being formed to get rid of me? LOL. All you have to do is present valid points to chruser, and I'd be gone in no time.

Slim

2004-07-16, 10:35 PM

D3V, you're a fucking simpleton. I don't even like Grav, I don't dislike the guy either right now. Since I let off a bit of steam in the FF at him, he hasn't really given me another reason to hate him, though your dense ass certainly deserves to die a horribly painful death in uncapped's new "Ownder" (Patent Pending.)

KagomJack

2004-07-16, 10:53 PM

This is something we really need to resolve asap...>.<

It seems that people are pissed off at Sov for banning Grav for some threads and posts. D3V is pissed because Sov edited his posts and a temp ban (am I correct?) and also because he defended Bob and just edited a few posts to prevent banning, etc.. And now we're in the "OMG, SOV IS ABUSING TEH POWER!" crap.

I suggest a few things: Sov, slack up a bit :) Also, don't do that anymore, it is quite unfair to people (Grav deserved to be banned for breaking many rules and continually making new names when he's banned). D3V: I like you, you're cool, etc., but quit bitching about it, you have a problem with Sov? Present it to Chrusher and go on about it with him.

HandOfHeaven

2004-07-16, 10:57 PM

Um, just so you know it's Chruser. Otherwise, mostly valid points.

Sovereign

2004-07-16, 10:58 PM

Or here's a new idea! Talk to me in a civilized, respectful manner, and chances are, 99.99 percent of the time, the problem can be resolved WITHOUT any further fighting. I guarentee it. You want me to ease up? Fine. I'm done editing posts and non of them will be removed unless posted by a banned member under a new name, or is clearly just a flame.

KagomJack

2004-07-16, 11:01 PM

That's cool of you Sov. I believe that a civilized approach would make things better instead of the constant moans and groans...

(HoH: MY BAD >.<)

D3V

2004-07-16, 11:25 PM

Actually I don't really have too much of a problem with Soverign. And even if I wanted to present anything to 'Chruser' he would just say something with a smartass remark and discard it and go about talking of the Legislative branch.

Sovereign

2004-07-16, 11:28 PM

Then bring up the issue to me, IN A CIVILIZED, NON VERBALLY ABUSIVE MANNER, and I will be more then happy to introduce it to ad mod, or try to get him to listen. (This willl work with any other staff member for that matter...)

I'm a lot more likely to listen and talk back to you if a Convo starts out with "Hey", instead of "YOu mother fucker".

KagomJack

2004-07-17, 12:06 AM

I do want to say something though, Sov is much more tolerant than the peta2.com mods are. Many of you may not like him right now because you view him as a "tyrant", but you should be happy with him...we could have some of the psychotic men of peta2.com

Jamesadin

2004-07-17, 12:06 AM

Kagom, shouldn't that be a guy in your avatar that's kissing the other..?

Honestly, what a fucking cheapshot.

HandOfHeaven

2004-07-17, 12:11 AM

~Edited~ I realize it was very cheap and immature. Sorry.

KagomJack

2004-07-17, 12:12 AM

~Edited~ I realize it was very cheap and immature. Sorry.
I'm quite proud you're willing enough to admit that you were being immature.

HandOfHeaven

2004-07-17, 12:14 AM

Haha, thanks? There really isn't a place for that nowadays, with trying to repair the forums and repairing the mood.

KagomJack

2004-07-17, 12:17 AM

Haha, thanks? There really isn't a place for that nowadays, with trying to repair the forums and repairing the mood.
There was no place for it ever.

Hades-Knight

2004-07-17, 11:39 AM

This is stupid, the mods are being assholes now, editing people's post, moving them, etc. Just chill for fucks sake, dont do your job for a week and see how things turn up, then you can make a choice.

KagomJack

2004-07-17, 11:57 AM

Dude, they need to be a little more strict. They should keep on doing their jobs, but with a little more slack in some areas (obscenities). They should move posts if it need be. Without order only chaos ensues.

Slim

2004-07-17, 01:46 PM

What the fuck is the big deal with MOVING POSTS?! If it's in the wrong forum it NEEDS moved.

KagomJack

2004-07-17, 01:52 PM

Since people didn't realize that it's something that needs to be done sometimes because their primal idiocy gets in the way.

BlueCube

2004-07-17, 03:11 PM

If something breaks the TOS, and Sov deletes/edits it, shut up. It doesn't matter that "he didn't delete that other thread" or whatever.

If you're going 1 MPH over the speed limit, a normal cop usually won't pull you over. If he does, for whatever reason (maybe he hates Fords or something), no amount of whining will change the fact that you were, in fact, breaking the law and just got caught while doing it.

It's not an "abuse of power" to enforce the law as it's written.. though perhaps it is a waste of time/resources in some cases.

D3V

2004-07-18, 12:26 AM

Well what my argument was he was not enforcing the rules against anybody else. He gave me a temp ban for profanity, when there were atleast 20 other active threads with profanity in them, in doing so I guess he was pissed he found out he was wrong, and removed the temp ban.

The staff is leiniant, and that is fine, it works good. They do their job accordingly, and that's why they were elected/picked.

Randuin

2004-07-18, 02:41 AM

Actually I'm a strong believer of picked law enforcement. You, D3V, should be banned for being alive

NonGayMan

2004-07-18, 08:27 AM

I accidently picked the wrong option. He is most likely being antagonized into using his mod powers, though.

Sovereign

2004-07-18, 08:28 AM

Which one did you pick. (just to make sure), I'll change it for you.

NonGayMan

2004-07-18, 08:41 AM

Which one did you pick. (just to make sure), I'll change it for you.

I picked 'Yes, he is.' I meant to pick 'No, he's not.'

slaynish

2004-07-18, 10:46 AM

If anything could be more clearer bluecube, then i dont know what I'd do.

D3v, Did you ever wonder why chruser replys to you in smartass remarks?

He told me himself. He said you are a fool. Dont try backing it up saying I am too, Once again, he told me himself, I just act like a fool. ^_-

Go die, then you wont be a fool.

Also, Bluecube put it easy to understand. Pretend you're the ford, and sov is the cop. He doesnt fucking LIKE you. Does it really matter? Maybe you should work on you not acting so retarted most of the time, and make it so he picks on somebody else(not saying he picks on you.)