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Princess_Hibed
2004-06-17, 03:52 PM
What armor is better for a Hammerdin? Choose between Skin of Vipermagi and Que-Hagan's Wisdom, or whatever it is called. I know everyone wants an Enigma but I am not very rich. Or is there a better armor other than Enigma that could be used, especially before lvl 60 or so?
Have never built a Pally for PVM so this is the first shot at it.
And, what boss, act, or monster will cause the most problems for a Hammerdin?
Thx for the help...
MightyJoe
2004-06-17, 03:54 PM
For your armor I think that Que-Hagans is better, but you can use the Skin of Vipermagi. Also no problems for you except a monster in act 3 that prolly will never encounter, he is in the middle. Also The maggot lair because it is small, so have someone help you.
celaron
2004-06-17, 03:55 PM
I use skulders ;)
+1 skills, def is quite ok!
and MOST MF on armor!
Medieval Bob
2004-06-17, 04:00 PM
I use upgraded Vipermagi. If you're ever on when I'm online (and not botting), I'll give ya a vipermagi... Bot picks em up, and I don't have any use.
Just get a Lem, a Ko, and a Pdiamond, and you'll have a ~800 def Vipermagi.
Princess_Hibed
2004-06-17, 04:07 PM
I have the two runes and can get a pdiamond. I have a vipermagi as well. Is this a cube recipe or something for ladder?
Thx
Medieval Bob
2004-06-17, 04:27 PM
Ya, it's ladder only.
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml
supaflip_69
2004-06-17, 05:08 PM
i'd go for the magi..nice resists...i'd even um it after i upgrade it
kockblocker1
2004-06-17, 05:11 PM
Another vote for vipermagi. The FCR is also a big plus.
HandOfHeaven
2004-06-17, 05:12 PM
Resistances won me over. It's what my hammerdin is gonna wear when he level 29. ^_^
iceman887
2004-06-17, 05:24 PM
well even though u said pick between que hagens and vipermagi, i would say vipermagi but there is another armor that is better and cheap which is the unique exceptional plate mail armor, not sure name but like templar something or i dunno but gives +1 pala and gives block stuff and +15 max res so u can get 90 res because i used that armor on my pala before i got enigma and it is good
dgpnd81
2004-06-17, 05:30 PM
yup i agree, go for templars might, not overly expensive but like sick def and good adds, so i say go for templars man, forget the viper and que
koolio_kid2001
2004-06-17, 05:37 PM
U THE FUCKING GUARDIAN ANGEL 1all pally skills, MAX res, use WIZARDSPIKE for fuckin RES and shit... DONT USE MAGI or QUE...GA pwn's them foir a pally UGH
Princess_Hibed
2004-06-17, 05:48 PM
Okay, I will use the Viper from lvl 29 to 45 and then switch to Guardian Angel.
After 2 years of playing nothing but zons this will be interesting.
Medieval Bob
2004-06-17, 07:18 PM
I would certainly not use Guardian Angel.
Guardian Angel:
Defense: 770-825 (varies)(Base Defense: 252-274)
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 118
Durability: 60
+180-200% Enhanced Defense(varies)
+20% Increased Chance Of Blocking
+30% Faster Block Rate
+1 To Paladin Skill Levels
15% To Maximum Poison Resist
15% To Maximum Cold Resist
15% To Maximum Lightning Resist
15% To Maximum Fire Resist
Skin of the Vipermagi
Defense: 279 (Base Defense: 111-126)
Required Level: 29
Required Strength: 43
Durability: 24
+120% Enhanced Defense
+1 To All Skills
30% Faster Cast Rate
Magic Damage Reduced By 9-13 (varies)
All Resistances +20-35
Sure, the Guardian has +15 to max resists, but it doesn't actually have any resists. It has lots more armor, but it's been said that resists are more important than armor in 1.10.
Do take note than an upgraded Vipermagi has ~800 defense. I'm sure an upgraded Guardian has a lot more than that, but, other than blocking, that's about all it has going for it.
Vipermagi has +1 skills, just as Guardian does, but it also has resists, faster cast, and magic damage reduction. Just my opinion though....
HandOfHeaven
2004-06-17, 07:59 PM
If you Up'd Guardian, keep in mind you'd have to drop more points into strength too....
iceman887
2004-06-17, 09:20 PM
well u can easily get 75 max resist withou the armor so once u have armor u can have 90 res, just use viper until u can use guard angel
koolio_kid2001
2004-06-17, 09:36 PM
did u not listen. if your not rich then u WILL BE USING A WIZZY which is an easy 75 res! so use that and a um'ed HoZ and u got like 150 res just there and a um shako and crednum or w/e set mithril coil belt w/ 15 all res u got MAX res and 90 res w/ guardian
Princess_Hibed
2004-06-17, 10:46 PM
Okay, so can I get an upgraded Viper on non-ladder? If so, what will it cost me?
And should I start trading for Offensive Pally GC's? Or what charms should I go for?
HandOfHeaven
2004-06-17, 11:14 PM
No, you can only upgrade exceptional to elite on Ladder.
Alucard001
2004-06-18, 08:42 AM
I use skulders ;)
+1 skills, def is quite ok!
and MOST MF on armor!
I'd disagree, tal armor belt ammy gives the highest I've seen.. armor 112 belt 11 with ammy 65 so that's 188 :grin: i think anyway... goldwrap 30 skullders(Assuming you have a level 99) 99+24 and an ammy well if you had a 40 ammy? 30+40+99+24= 193... although 5 mf more... tals gives +2 skills and also resist and some other stuff which I don't know because I'm in the library "studying" for exams :haha:
Although that had nothing to do with your question, I'd say ViperMagi. Gear doesn't always make the best chars... sometimes yes but skill > gear most of the time :x
Medieval Bob
2004-06-18, 08:53 AM
Tal's belt can give 15. Therefore, you'll only have more with Skullders if you're level 99. At level 98, it's the same amount.
However, this is for a Paladin, so he won't want to use Tal's ammy as it's only +2 Sorc Skills.
Okay, so can I get an upgraded Viper on non-ladder? If so, what will it cost me?
And should I start trading for Offensive Pally GC's? Or what charms should I go for?
Don't get Pally offensive, get P Comabt, a bit more expensive but better on the long run.
blckshdwdragon
2004-06-18, 11:43 AM
What armor is better for a Hammerdin? Choose between Skin of Vipermagi and Que-Hagan's Wisdom, or whatever it is called. I know everyone wants an Enigma but I am not very rich. Or is there a better armor other than Enigma that could be used, especially before lvl 60 or so?
Have never built a Pally for PVM so this is the first shot at it.
And, what boss, act, or monster will cause the most problems for a Hammerdin?
Thx for the help...
depends on your other gear, the main thing is to get around 50% fcr, lots of life and resists. More resists is good for a4 and 5 for the obliv knights that cast lower resists imagine if a4 and 5 monsters spawn in world stone lower resists + burning souls = death to the unexperienced. the only problem i ever encountered was the maggot lair, due to small tunnels, so i compensated with a decent merc might take a while to solo it but its a 1 time thing for every difficulty
wilma
2004-06-18, 12:31 PM
i have a lvl 87 paladin and i dont use either of those. I do a lot of rushing and so i use guardian angel (tgods too). I like mine very much as it gets ur resists to 90/90/95/90 (with the right other items) and lightning absorb. those souls in worldstone are just little clouds to my pally :D
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