frozen orb sorc

[iceman887]

hey i want to make a frozen orb sorc and i was wondering what are your suggesstions and opinions

[zagggon]

hey i want to make a frozen orb sorc and i was wondering what are your suggesstions and opinions
Well my bot sorce is one (lvl99) and contrary to popular belief, she OWNS. I think alot of people use blizz sorces now and dont want to hear about orb so they try to give it a bad rap when actually it is still very good.

[Vollstrecker]

It wouldn't be too hard to make one, Frozen Orb's only synergy is Ice Bolt. You have plenty of skill points left over to add another element...

Firewall was always popular, or you could go with some lightning.

[iceman887]

well this is what i was thinking, i want a cold sorc because with a cold sorc u can do pit runs, which i heard are decent so and i would use blizzard but ive had a orb sorc and its radius is really good, and u can basically run and shoot the orb and hurting a lot of people fast, but with blizzard its just one area. and i thought with the new synergies orb cuold get a lot stronger because even before in 1.9 it was pretty strong even though the damage said it was like 350. yah, i know i would have lots of stat points left, could i still max blizzard too? with all the synergies?, if i go lighting i wont beable to get all the synergies so im pretty sure ill just max out all cold, only a 1 element sorc.

[SlickFic04]

Ummm pit runs, well they have monsters with immune to cold so, if i were u id go with fo, some points into cold mast, maybe ice bolt, chain lightin and synergies. somethin like that, d2items.com has a skil planner.

[Vollstrecker]

~45% of monsters in Pit are Cold Immune, ~45% are Fire Immune, and the rest are Lightning Immune.

You could go with Nova, but the damage on it would be kind of low. You could go Chain Lightning with partial synergies, Fireball with partial synergies, or even Firewall.

It's really up to you.

[iceman887]

dang, last time i looked at pit i only saw fire and lighting immune, oh well, but i rather get 1 element really strong, do u think i could still max blizzard with the synergies if i go with frozen orb?

[HandOfHeaven]

Blizzard is a waste without the full synergies. You migth consider maxing orb and ice bolt, and then i have seen quite a few doing meteor and fireball and getting mastery up on both sides.

[`Insolence`]

Firewall is a COMPLETE waste of points.

Best bet, is orb + synergy + cold master + lit + synergy + lit mast, not sure its going to work, but it's worth a try.

Lit because it does more damage, less mana, and with a bot it will hit EVERY time, so I'd say it's better than chain lit.

If you have a rigged sorc, go with Chain Lit (it eats mana fast as shit)

[zagggon]

d2items.com has a skil planner.
lmao.......

[Vollstrecker]

Firewall is a COMPLETE waste of points.

From what I hear, Firewall's damage is still decent (although using the skill takes some talent).

I personally wouldn't go for Firewall, but others may.

[iceman887]

why is zaggon lmao at what slick said? and also does lighting only hit like a striaght line or 1 person? if so then i wouldnt really want that, but what do u mean with a bot? you mean like a bot like to do magic find runs, those kind of bots? and what is a rigged sorc

[`Insolence`]

Straight line, lightning his many many targets, great for cow games, chain lit hits at max 9 targets.

Firewall IS nerfed..

[BlackKnight]

Straight line, lightning his many many targets, great for cow games, chain lit hits at max 9 targets.

Firewall IS nerfed..

on lvl 25 chain lit will hit 10 targets...
i would take orb,it could make more than 1.2k and hits veryfast an good+(-resitens)it will make very much more than 1.2k
but if you want to make mf runs you will need an other element

[SlickFic04]

lmao.......

Whats is so incredibly funny about "d2item.com has a skill planner."

[Vollstrecker]

They did nerf Firewall from its point of stupidity back in 1.08. My first MF sorc was a Frozen Orb/Fire Wall build.

It could still work. I'll check things out a bit later on this.

[`Insolence`]

No, it's not as effective as the build i posted, FW just cant keep up with lit.

[iceman887]

hey, i could max out blizzard, because ice bolt, ice blast, glacial spike, blizzard, and frozen orb is 100 skills and can have that many becaues of skill bonus

[tidus2005]

just a little fyi if you havent made a cold sorc the main reason for making one is to take advantage of cold mastery becuse a metero sorc can do roughly 15k per impact on meteor while maxed synergy blizz does about 6k not sure on this number havent made one yet. but anyway blizz will still kill meph alot faster if you have a good cold mastery than if you were using a meteor sorc.

[HandOfHeaven]

Plus, blizzard automatically casts, and does not take 1-2 seconds to land. And the d2items skill planner, it does not work. And I believe the calculations were wrong.

[iceman887]

yah but 1 in cold mastery, wouldnt that be a lot because i will have lots of + skills

[`Insolence`]

you want ATLEAST 20 cold mastery, for orb to get it's full potential.

That's a good idea though, to save points.

5 in cold mast, 20 orb, 20 bolt, about 15~ prereqs, 20 lit, x chain lit, 20 mastery.

That's 100 right there.

[HandOfHeaven]

If you got all the skill quests, you would be only a lvl 88. :D

[`Insolence`]

I was wrong, i forgot about 'x chain lit' for synergy, so its actualy more like 120 -.-

[Vollstrecker]

I know Firewall can't keep up with lightning, it was just a quick, easy Fire option. Some people don't know what to do with lightning if it's not Thunder Storm or Nova. ;)

I kinda liked Firewall a little. It still holds a special place in my heart as a reminder of my first l33t character. :)

[BlackKnight]

mephisto have 50%resist to fire and 25%resist to cold on hell,with cold mastery you get easy -125% cold resist,so you will make mephisto 12k cold dmg if you have 6k blizzard and you will make mephisto only 8k fire dmg if you have 16k meteor
MFG

[iceman887]

cool, thx for the information because i remember i did awesome damage to him when i had orb but i was wondering is like each ice bolt that frozen orb shoots 300 something damage?

[BlackKnight]

i hope i understand right^^

orb made in 1.09 about 400 dmg with each ice bolt and now in 1.10 about 1k so it makes 2k dmg on monster(if ypu have enogh -coldresist) and it hits very very much monster also a very good attak :)

[iceman887]

oo ok, i got it, whats the max -cold resist u can get?

[BlackKnight]

the max i reached was -250cold resist from cold mastery(i think you can got so much you will,you need only skills :) ),but if you take in all items facets-cold resist:
cold mastery at lvl :41-43 (-220%cold resist ---- -230%cold resist)
-weapon:doom (2 skills to all) can have -60 cold resist or Death's Fathom (3 skills) can have +30%cold dmg socked with facet +5%cold dmg -5%cold resist
-helm:harle (2 skills) or Nightwing's Veil (2 skills and can have +15%cold dmg) socked with cold facet +5%cold dmg and -5%resist
-armor:ormus can have +20%cold dmg socked with facet +5%cold dmg -5%cold resist
-rings:2xsoj (2 skills)
-belt:spiderweb (1 skill)
-amu:amu with 3 cold skills (3 skills :P)
-shield:lidless (1 skill) socked with facet +5%cold dmg -5%cold resist or 4socked shield with 4 fackets +20%cold dmg -20%cold resist
-charms:10 cold skiller (10 skills :P)
its not a guid because you need for pvp something for antifroozen , i write this only that you can see what its possible :)
-charm:anni (1 skill)
with adding all you can get
-cold resist:245-320
+cold dmg:55-100

i hope i could help you with this,because its half a guide :P and i hope too that i don´t do mistakes :(

[iceman887]

ok, then should i max out cold mastery, since they changed the bug where it stops increasing the -cold resist?, also i need some shako and another maras plz, how cheap can i get those for on ladder?

[BlackKnight]

i would max cold mastery!
shako and maras on ladder aren´t cheap :(

[MightyJoe]

I went with thunderstorm to go along with orb and it is working out pretty good so far, doing nm baal runs right now and i have no trouble at lvl 65 with orb and thunderstorm maxed and cold mastery at 10 and th mastery at 5 i think

[BlackKnight]

I went with thunderstorm to go along with orb and it is working out pretty good so far, doing nm baal runs right now and i have no trouble at lvl 65 with orb and thunderstorm maxed and cold mastery at 10 and th mastery at 5 i think
he wants only ice sorc :)

[hey_dude]

dude bliz owns i could shaughter lv 60s 70s and 80s at lv 45

[Sovereign]

Must you start every post wiht "dude" :p.

What kind of characters were yuou killing? They must have been melee, i dont think a lvl 80 sorc can lose to a lvl 45...uinless the lvl 80 is an uber newber.

[iceman887]

i have maxed ice bolt, orb, and mastery, i was thinking about maxing charged bolt lighting mastery and then lighting to the most i can, good idea? do u think i need to put in mana shield?

[BlackKnight]

one skill is not bad,but don´t take skills on light,i don´t makes really so much dmg and eat very very much mana

[iceman887]

ok so, if i stick with cold, ill max out blizzard and glacial spike first then try to put rest in ice blast or what order should i put it in

[BlackKnight]

take first all skills you need 1 time,than max blizzard--->cold mastery --->Glacial Spike--->Ice Blast--->Ice Bolt
i would make it so,but you attak with blizzard so it´s not a problem if you max a skill after an other one...^^

[iceman887]

i dont understand, i use frozen orb attack, and u said just stick with one element and i already have icebolt, cold mastery, and frozen orb maxed, and i need to know what order do i max all those other cold skills, got it?

[HandOfHeaven]

I would say max ice blast OR glaciel spike and use that as a spammer. It's your preference which one you want to use.

[BlackKnight]

sorry but my english is a bit bad :(
i hope i understand right,you want only attak with orb?so you need only to max ice bolt
you can take fire as an other element
i hope i understand right and could help:(