War with Iraq?

[Chruser]

Well, as it seems, a war with Iraq is getting closer for every day that passes. What do you think about this?

[Adrenachrome]

I think it's gotta be done, he's hiding too much and possibly planning the worst of atacks against us(U.S.).

[Mr.Lee]

And now sadams son has made a threat too... saying that the 11th was nothing compared what he's going to too.

Great... double trouble?

So i think that US must do something about it.

[Titusfied]

I agree, there is no Super Cop mentality in the US. If someone doesn't "step up to the plate" and quell this ever growing threat, who will, and when?

If something isn't done soon, everyone's opinons will change quite drastically when family members are directly effected by war and innocent killings...

I mean, think about it, how much different would your opinon be if your parents were in the World Trade Center when it collapsed and their bodies were crushed beyond recongition? I just hope it doesn't take something that catastophic in your lives to help aid in this process.

Sometimes, the only way to avoid such tragedy is to act upon a situation before letting it get too far out of hand.

[Randuin]

nuke their asses, pretty simple

[Mr.Lee]

Nuke isnt a sullution , they nuke you back which will resulting into a nuclear winter...

[Randuin]

owell i'm not in the US :D they bomb each other... would be entertaining

[JiDDaR]

owell i'm not in the US :D they bomb each other... would be entertaining
lol

[Titusfied]

not LoL...

[StonedVegeta]

nuke their asses, pretty simple

WHAT ABOUT THE INNOCENTS?!?!?!? Why is it that everyone always says nuke them. Is no one thinking about what it is like to live over there. Saddam is a dictator. Do you think that his people enjoy watching countless hundreds and thousands die, just because one man makes them. Then, if they don't they are killed on sight by their own army. Think beofre you write people.

[Titusfied]

Sadaam = Bad man = Deserves death.

Bush = Sadaam's death! Yay!!! :)

[Hades-Knight]

I think that they should ttack it, and every country that has a dictator..... not harming the people but the leaders

[Titusfied]

Wouldn't that just be a perfect Utopia.

[Evil-Scott]

its what sadaam wants.. he wants the war of course.. hes probly pretty damn sure he wont win, but what does he have to lose? but to try and make the U.S look bad. he wants us to go in and fight them 1:1 and bomb them time from time killing the innocents here and there.. so the gossip from all the other countries can say he look bush is killing innocent civilians...making them angry at the U.S we would jus make sadaams job ezier..by going to war its what he has been waiting for, for sometime...nukes, chemical warfare, and the chances of more wars at home in the US
The time has come and the US is stepping up and its of best interest and get sadaam out of there asap...but has anyone heard about his like 11 sons? they are 5x madder then sadaam himself..so ive heard so now we must take action and crush his army as we did taliban.

[khwiii]

its what sadaam wants.. he wants the war of course.. hes probly pretty damn sure he wont win, but what does he have to lose? but to try and make the U.S look bad. he wants us to go in and fight them 1:1 and bomb them time from time killing the innocents here and there.. so the gossip from all the other countries can say he look bush is killing innocent civilians...making them angry at the U.S we would jus make sadaams job ezier..

The thing i don't get.. Is the world already knows that sadaam is a man who doesn't mind killing innocent people. The fact the used chemical/biological weapons (someone refresh my memory on which it was) on his own innocent people shows he doesn't care. The fact is too many innocent american people have died from terrorist activity. And though sadaam may not have done it. It seems as though i had heard he had been in conversation with bin Ladin. So he had to of known. I say tomahawk those idiots.

[Titusfied]

I agree! Anyone who is associated with Osama and kills innocent civilians that have even the slightest inkling of opposition towards him, deserves to be massacred!!

[sir.dennis]

I believe the U.S. just wants to get at their oil.

[khwiii]

Maybe so? Are you from the US? If you lived here you'd know how horrible the economy is. Well war tends to encourge movement in economy so maybe that's some motivation too? There are soo many reasons it seems we should go to war. Not sure what everyone else in the world thinks at this point. (Besides the leaders of countries) I mean people. This is why I ask if you were form here.

[StonedVegeta]

Yes, oil is a large part of it. Then there is the whole "I'm going to kill you" thing that Saddam and his sons have stated. I am not sure, but with a guy like him, you have to take everything he says literaly. I say we send in snipers, kill him from afar. Then if anything else happens, then got to full out war.

[Evil-Scott]

I say we send in snipers, kill him from afar. Then if anything else happens, then got to full out war.

snipers were in the past im sure we have already thought of that and or tried it already but who knows...
i think its to late to get a ez shot out on his ass now.. so its up to war to solve matters

[Jamesadin]

Snipers are against the United Nations rules. Unless you are in war. The Geniva Convention says that you must be under war conditions to send in snipers.

For those who dont know, the Geniva Convention are basically rules of war.

[Ganga]

wtf i cant even keep reading u guys bullshit... ppl of iraq love saddam, so US didt even care about the ppl, and go half around of the world and say u got weapon we dont like i got to kill u sorry. wtf... wut if russian say US got nuclear weapon disarm it or i going nuke u us? ah

[khwiii]

THE fact is there are people who don't like sadaam. He just tends to kill them off. Maybe if you had the threat of living where you were the target of all madmen and terrorist you'd understand.

[Ganga]

UN been in Iraq for like month seaching and say they found nothing y is bush keep saying they got like mad weapon.... do bush have any prove yet?....

[khwiii]

The fact is he's been "somewhat" cooperative.

He's a known offender. Are we supposed to sit back and wait like we did in WW2? Sure let's have another Pearl Harbor. The truth is there are civilized countries and uncivilized countries. Sadaam cannot be considered civilized for the reasons he has demonstrated in the past.

[Titusfied]

Impressive kwhii. I don't know how you managed to decifer those jumbled posts and make sense of them enough to respond. I had to take a double and triple take at em just to make sure I wasn't seeing things. Is ganga pinoy-real?

[khwiii]

I think he is forgein.. with a limited grip on the english language. Or at least my guess anyway. And this also answers my question ealier about people from foreign countries and if they understand our stance or not.

[StonedVegeta]

Did I just read that someone says that Saddam is loved in Iraq. Oh, I must be mistaken, considering he has killed his own people. "Gee, I love our genocidal leader. Let us give upo our lives for his amusement. Yay!" NOT! They do not all love him. Jeeze people, think before you write. It is emabrassing some of the stuff you people write.

[NonGayMan]

Bush says he has to disarm Iraq... does this mean we are going to have a nucleur war? I hope not.

[khwiii]

Bush says he has to disarm Iraq... does this mean we are going to have a nucleur war? I hope not.

Don't we all hope not?

Is Sadaam that stupid? Is Bush that stupid? Let's hope not.

I am not against war.... Just against the stupidity of Nuclear wars.

[mightychicken]

Bush is evil. A)

[Strider Fury]

I just don't like how every once so often someone brings out the point that 'Saddam is a madman and therefore has to be removed of power'. I believe that Saddam is only a madman in an attempt to keep his country together and not out begging on the streets. even if someone comes and remove Saddam, its going to take someone even more or as ruthless as Saddam to keep Iraq together. if not, then its most likely divide in three and start a civil war.

[Titusfied]

Honestly, I'd rather see him out of power, out of his dictatorship, and away from killing innocent citizens of his "together" country. We aren't just going to take him out and let Iraq deteriorate. We have the citizen's freedom's on our mind, and we are willing to go to war for them. Why do people fail to see that we are only trying to help.

Take off your opaque, obscuring glasses and check out the good in America for a change, rather just some of the few flaws we, like every nations exhibits.

[StonedVegeta]

Take off your opaque, obscuring glasses and check out the good in America for a change, rather just some of the few flaws we, like every nations exhibits.


That would be nice, but their will always be negative people. And the nuclear war thing. In case some of you didn't know, Iraq does have allies. For instance, Russia. Yes, Russia. If we fired nukes at Iraq, we would be screwed. Plus, now the U.S. has only small allies. No Germany, etc. When we go to war, we will be fighting alone. So, any way you look at it, we are screwed. I am still for taking down Saddam, but I just don't like the idea of another 9-11, if you get my drift.

[Titusfied]

1) Russia would never join Sadaam and fight against us in war. Especially if Iraq attacked first and we retalliated.

2) Our allies are not small. We have plenty back, and trust me, when they join us, our force will be a united one, with much strength, much greater than one that can be produced by the U.S. alone.

I fear not this war. If we don't attack Iraq, only more deaths would occur, and for all the wrong reasons.

[khwiii]

Am I confused? Didn't Tony Blair back the U.S.? Or has the situation changed?

[Strider Fury]

Tony Blair is afraid to get too close to the elephant. all of the things you see him on TV is all for show.

[StonedVegeta]

1) Russia would never join Sadaam and fight against us in war. Especially if Iraq attacked first and we retalliated.

2) Our allies are not small. We have plenty back, and trust me, when they join us, our force will be a united one, with much strength, much greater than one that can be produced by the U.S. alone.

I fear not this war. If we don't attack Iraq, only more deaths would occur, and for all the wrong reasons.


Well, we don't have Germany, or any other world powers any more. Some guy offended them or something. All we have are small countries. No England, Germany, France, nothing. Just small countries to help out

[Titusfied]

Well, we ahve England and France, but France is being a bunch of douchebag's because they have ties with Iraq and their oil. Well, they better realize that if you don't take off with someone, you sure as hell ain't gonna land with em!

I have a hunch they will come around...

[Jamesadin]

I would be more afraid of North Korea.

[quikspy67]

I voted #3.

[Assmonk]

LOL nuke their asses....i really dun care about the innocents beacuse there all little ragheads

[Strider Fury]

whatever, Assmonk.

[Jamesadin]

LOL nuke their asses....i really dun care about the innocents beacuse there all little ragheads

What a pathetic little ass....moink.

Anywho..dont be a rasict dickhead.

[Strider Fury]

Assmunch would have been a better word. but then again I was just tying to make fun of the plain idiocy behind his dumb username.

[StonedVegeta]

Oh yeah, let's kill innocent people that have nothing to do with the war. That's the spirit. You idiot. I don't want to be the country that starts WWIII. No thanks.

[Acer]

I dont hate, I just feel like if a crazy man that has crazy weaps sould be stoped just like any normal criminal. War, maybe a good answer, most likely not best. I just think anyone who will kill for power should be stoped, ASAP no if, ands, or buts.

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[badboy]

Sadam is a pycho who deserves what is coming to him. If you have watched anything on him you would know he is a mass murderer and kills mainly his own people. I think we should go into Iraq and take Sadam out of power and restore society to a torn country.

[Grav]

Saddam.

STEALTH BAN POWER!!!!!!

[Ganga]

POWER IS EVIL!! i think i would do something simliar if i had that much power................ you got to do something with you life, unless you belive there is hell(bs) and heaven (bs)

[StonedVegeta]

Yeah, but I don't think that normal people would kill their own. With power, I would probably want to try to take over ythe world, and then fail miserably. I think that the U.N. should take off the ban on snipers that says they are only allowed during the time of war, and send in a few. tkae out Saddam, his sons, and onyone else that would harm the world.

[khwiii]

Really? You mean like in 1953 when the US overthrew prime minister Mossadeq of Iran? And then we put Shah in power. Or in 1954 we overthrew democratically elected President Arbenz of Guatemala (in which 200,000 civilians were killed) . Or how about 1963 when the US backed the assassination of South Vietnamese President Diem? Btw... did you know that in the 1980's that the US trained Osama and fellow terrorists to kill the Soviets? And we gave them 3 billion dollars. in 1982 the US gave billions in aid for weapons to none other the Saddam Hussein to kill Iranians. In 1983 the US secretly gave weapons to the Iranians to kill the Iraqis. (I guess we wanted them to kill each other?) In 2000-01 the US gave the Taliban ruled Afghanistan $245 million in "aid".

Do you think the US should seriously continue trying to run other countries? I am not against the war, just think what your saying is a bit silly.

[Ganga]

wow cool fact, now from that US look like a dumbass to me

[StonedVegeta]

Really? You mean like in 1953 when the US overthrew prime minister Mossadeq of Iran? And then we put Shah in power. Or in 1954 we overthrew democratically elected President Arbenz of Guatemala (in which 200,000 civilians were killed) . Or how about 1963 when the US backed the assassination of South Vietnamese President Diem? Btw... did you know that in the 1980's that the US trained Osama and fellow terrorists to kill the Soviets? And we gave them 3 billion dollars. in 1982 the US gave billions in aid for weapons to none other the Saddam Hussein to kill Iranians. In 1983 the US secretly gave weapons to the Iranians to kill the Iraqis. (I guess we wanted them to kill each other?) In 2000-01 the US gave the Taliban ruled Afghanistan $245 million in "aid".

Do you think the US should seriously continue trying to run other countries? I am not against the war, just think what your saying is a bit silly.


I didn't say that we should run other countries. We have seen the mistake from that. maybe the whole sniper thing isn't the best idea, but there really is no other alternative, except war. But I think if we start a war, it will be a lot more than we bargained for.

[Titusfied]

Well, if we chose to go the sniper route, there would be definite war reprocussions.

[khwiii]

I didn't say that we should run other countries. We have seen the mistake from that. maybe the whole sniper thing isn't the best idea, but there really is no other alternative, except war. But I think if we start a war, it will be a lot more than we bargained for.


Did you read what I posted? You just continue to repeat history. It's not the US's place to determine who is in charge of what country. We have absolutely NO right to go in there and kill him. Whether or not he should be in power is not for the US to decide. If the people of Iraq want him out of power, he would be removed. That's how civil wars happen. AT which point the US would give backing to the movement against him. Until the US let's the UN do their job, then history will just keep repeating itself. The UN also really needs to do their job, and not let people wlak all over them.

[Titusfied]

Well, how do you think wars are started. There is a differing of opinions to such an extent that mass killings become wide spread. In this case, a dictator against its helpless people. We, the US want to intervene to not only help dethrone a 50 year long dictatorship that has commited mass genocide on his own people, and will do so again, but to also gain from their country.

It would be crazy to not go to war. All I've been saying is lets be reasonable about it, and not act like lunatics. What would it take to get through you people's thick skulls that don't want this war? Maybe a few deaths in your family? Lets hope it never gets to that point, but if that's what it takes to shut you fucking hypocrits up, then so be it. Lets wait, lets let Sadaam kill our people on our homeland. Then lets see how you react.

We need to avoid the inevitable as much as possible. There is only so much we can do, but united, we can be such a persuasive and overwhelming force, and we can do good by it, you just need to give it a chance.

[khwiii]

Let me re-state some things so you'll better understand my positition. I am not against war, if my chosen government deems it nessecary. I just think people need to realize how the US has tried to do the right thing in the past, and how things backfired. I think that the US should at least give it a little more time. I also am not faulting the US for pushing the UN becuase its obvious somebody needs to push them. I just worry about the aftermath of war. Also, do all Americans (whether for or against) know what the war is about?

None the less, I AM wholeheartedly against the assassination of a countries leader, becuase we think it's right.

[Titusfied]

Agreed. But just because something didn't work out in the past, does that mean you shouldn't continue to try?

You are for a war, which is intended to bring down a dictator, but not for an assassination, even if both are deemed necessary by our government? Seems a little weird that your position stands like that... One way thousands upon thousands die, included innocents, and the other way, only a few, which is less than 1% most likely would initially die.

Although, I guess the key word there is initially. There would most likely be a war to follow if that were to happen, but who's to say that once he is dead, the country won't just collapse and start from fresh?

[khwiii]

I am for war about the right things, such as breaking the agreement of the UN resolution in which says they can't have WMD. I don't think it's right for the US to decide what's best for everyone else's country. No matter how horrible Saddam is, I just don't think we should go after him for the reasons you stated.

[Titusfied]

Wow, really? You don't think genocide is good enough of a reason? Especially against his own people!

I guess you are forgetting why the Gulf War started then, huh? Or WWII for taht matter...

[khwiii]

Hmm.. how about the Russian's killing the Chechen people? Becuase they want independance? Hmmm.. the US government gave them 10 billion dollars to help kill their own people.

Or how about Rwanada in 1994? Where 800,000 civilians died? Big war that caused.

Chinese people died during the 60's. We really fought a big war with them over that one.

Genocide alone, albeit a good reason, is not exactly been the U.S.'s main focus in having a war. BTW the gulf war started when Saddam decided to invade Kuwait. That's not exactly killing your "own" people. And WWII happened around the world while the US sat back and watched. The only reason the US got into the war, was becuase Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. The US actually did nothing to stop the Nazi's until OUR people died. So.. you'll have to come up with better arguements then that.