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Posted 2010-11-19, 01:47 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "http://lhc-commissioning.web.cern.ch/lhc..."
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/46186/



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Scientists at CERN were able to create and capture one of the largest mysteries in the universe: antimatter, according to a statement released this week.

A team at the European Organization for Nuclear Research in Switzerland said they produced and trapped antihydrogen atoms, allowing them to carry out further studies on antimatter’s relation to matter.

“For reasons that no one yet understands, nature ruled out antimatter," said Professor Jeffrey Hangst of Aarhus University in Denmark in a statement. "It is thus very rewarding, and a bit overwhelming, to ... know that it contains stable, neutral atoms of antimatter. This inspires us to work that much harder to see if antimatter holds some secret.”

Some scientists believe that the Big Bang—the event thought to have caused the genesis of the known universe—created equal amounts of antimatter and matter. But scientists are baffled as to why antimatter has seemingly disappeared because most of our universe consists of matter.

The CERN facility, which is the largest in the world, is the only lab in the world capable of creating low-energy antiprotons to make up antihydrogen, which consists of an antiproton and a positron.

Researchers created 38 antihydrogen atoms and held each of them for up to a tenth of a second—more than enough time for them to be studied, according to CNN.

"We could have held them for much longer ... I am just full of joy and relief, it's taken us five years to get here, this is a big milestone," Hangst told the news agency.

Scientists at CERN also noted that the Atomic Spectroscopy And Collisions Using Slow Antiprotons experiment (ASACUSA) developed a new approach for producing antihydrogen atoms, details of which will be published at a later date.
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Posted 2010-11-19, 03:02 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/..."
Woot.
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Posted 2010-11-19, 04:00 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Woot."
Now the blackhole creation begins.














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Posted 2010-11-19, 04:25 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "Now the blackhole creation begins."
We really need to move the LHC and future projects way out into space such that we don't inadvertently destroy our race.
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Posted 2010-11-19, 09:09 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "We really need to move the LHC and..."
And don't just put them on the moon, either. We're just as fucked if you split the moon in two as if you split the earth in two. Orbit it arround Venus or something.
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How do they know that other solar systems or other galaxies aren't antimatter? From what I understand, anti-matter shouldn't behave in anyway different that we can observe from such distances...though I suppose electromagnetics might be reversed; still not sure how you'd observe that without setting it up, though...
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Posted 2010-11-20, 01:09 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/..."
Dumbasses should just catch a Giratina and read it's pokedex entry...

What relevance does this even have to us as a species, anyway?
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Posted 2010-11-20, 01:47 PM in reply to Skurai's post starting "Dumbasses should just catch a Giratina..."
Matter-antimatter annihilation releases a lot of energy, which we might be able to use if we can figure out a way to efficiently acquire antimatter. Plus it is cool.
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Posted 2010-11-20, 10:10 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "We really need to move the LHC and..."
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We really need to move the LHC and future projects way out into space such that we don't inadvertently destroy our race.
Yes, since this type of experiment was so easily accomplished on Earth, then moving it to space should be no problem
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Posted 2010-11-21, 05:17 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Matter-antimatter annihilation releases..."
Science
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Plus it is cool.
It's fucking cool
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Posted 2010-11-22, 11:47 AM in reply to S2 AM's post starting "Yes, since this type of experiment was..."
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Yes, since this type of experiment was so easily accomplished on Earth, then moving it to space should be no problem
It's not a matter of technology, it's a matter of $$.














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Posted 2010-11-22, 09:24 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "It's not a matter of technology, it's a..."
Isn't that all is ever has truely been?
I can't wait for time travel. Then we just go back in time, bring out tech with us, show them how to use/make it, then go to the future to discover --- lol, time travel is outdated. It's an infinate loop of us getting infinately smarter, until we're the one in UF--oh shit! I've got something, here!
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Posted 2010-11-22, 10:38 PM in reply to Skurai's post starting "Isn't that all is ever has truely been?..."
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Isn't that all is ever has truely been?
Yeah, the ancient Egyptians wanted to build a LHC but they couldn't ever come up with enough money.
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Posted 2010-11-23, 10:30 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "Yeah, the ancient Egyptians wanted to..."
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Yeah, the ancient Egyptians wanted to build a LHC but they couldn't ever come up with enough money.
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Posted 2010-11-23, 11:28 AM in reply to Skurai's post starting "Isn't that all is ever has truely been?..."
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Isn't that all is ever has truely been?
My point is that they essentially could build one out in the middle of space, but it'd be an astronomical feat to pull off, which would cost alotta dough.














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Posted 2010-11-23, 01:02 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "My point is that they essentially could..."
The only reason it costs so much is because the technology isn't cheap, so technically it's a matter of both technology and money. They are interrelated.
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Posted 2010-11-23, 09:12 PM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "The only reason it costs so much is..."
Here's the bottom line. That particle accelerator likely costs on the order of a trillion dollars. Look it up online and call me wrong, but this is an order of magnitude estimate. Putting that into space would theoretically cost more than the money that is in the world, when you factor in the mass-cost of putting anything into orbit. Again, this is something you can look up, but roughly the cost of putting anything into orbit is a function of its mass (aka the fuel required), and it is expensive as hell. This particle accelerator is one massive piece of equipment, and a ballpark estimate could easily be found by simply considering its size and assuming a uniform mass density. As if that was not a problem enough, if I'm not mistaken it operates by providing a massive amount of power to electromagnets. When this is in orbit, where will this kind of power come from?

When talking about feasibility of putting this into space, then you're looking at somewhere on the science fiction time scale when the human race has large naval space-faring vessels. If this ever happens, and shipyards are in orbit and have material carried to them on either a space elevator, or something much, much, much more efficient than current methods, then yes this could be built in space. Save science fiction though, this will not be in space in the next 100 - 200 years, and that's making the assumption that science lags science fiction on the subject of space travel much as it has for other similar subjects.

By that time enough tests will have been conducted using this thing to know whether or not - by trial and error alone - it can destroy the human race.
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Posted 2010-11-23, 10:37 PM in reply to S2 AM's post starting "Here's the bottom line. That particle..."
You could build it on the moon and launch it from there more easily. If it's in orbit around Venus, noone would care if it was powered by a big nuclear reactor (it's probably powered by nuclear reactors now, actually...).
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Posted 2010-11-23, 10:53 PM in reply to WetWired's post starting "You could build it on the moon and..."
It's certainly within our means to do it, there's just not enough of a reason to, to the people that matter. Necessity breeds ingenuity. If we as a race wanted to do it bad enough, it wouldn't take long at all.

The main things that hold us back are bureaucracy and self-interest.
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Posted 2010-11-24, 09:32 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "It's certainly within our means to do..."
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If we as a race wanted to do it bad enough, it wouldn't take long at all.
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Posted 2010-11-25, 10:23 PM in reply to D3V's post starting "this is the answer, imo."
Maybe, if we're real lucky, people will want to do it!
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