Zelaron Gaming Forum  
Stats Arcade Portal Forum FAQ Members List Social Groups Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Zelaron Gaming Forum > The Zelaron Nexus > General Discussion > News and Events

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes

 
Soldier kills 5 comrades in Baghad.
Reply
Posted 2009-05-12, 01:57 AM
BAGHDAD, May 11 -- An American soldier opened fire on comrades Monday afternoon inside a combat stress clinic at a large U.S. military base in Baghdad, killing five and wounding three in an attack that prompted officials to promise to try to ease the strain on troops deployed to war zones.

The gunman was taken into custody shortly after the 2 p.m. shooting at Camp Liberty, part of a sprawling military installation near Baghdad International Airport, U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Brian Tribus said.

The military did not identify the gunman or shed light on what his motive might have been. Tribus said the gunman's name will be disclosed when and if charges are filed.

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and President Obama vowed to conduct a thorough investigation.

"I would like to express my horror and deep regret for today's shooting incident," Gates said at a briefing at the Pentagon. "Such a tragic loss of life at the hands of our own forces is a cause for great and urgent concern."

Gates said the Pentagon needs to redouble its efforts to relieve the stress caused by repeated deployments in war zones with limited time at home in between.

The shooting, among the deadliest attacks on American troops in Iraq in recent months, comes as U.S. commanders are grappling with the rising rate at which service members are committing suicide. Military leaders have attributed the increase to the stress of multiple deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Monday's attack was the deadliest incident involving a soldier opening fire on comrades since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

The rampage shook up soldiers at Victory Base Compound, which includes Camp Liberty, in large part because most feel relatively safe at the heavily guarded base.

"A lot of soldiers are wondering why," said a senior military official in Baghdad, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "We will be asking as leaders: What could we have done? How could we have protected the soldiers?"

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said that Obama was "saddened" and "shocked" by the shootings and that the president's "heart goes out" to the families of those killed.

Obama will press Gates in a meeting Monday afternoon to investigate the shootings to "ensure we fully understand what happened," Gibbs said.

Most military facilities in Iraq have combat stress clinics. Small outposts have officers trained to counsel soldiers experiencing depression, anxiety and other symptoms of combat stress. The military in recent years has launched campaigns to ease the stigma often associated with counseling.

Soldiers may walk into the clinics without making an appointment and are sometimes escorted by a friend or supervisor.

Soldiers are generally required to carry their weapons on military bases, which in the past have been targeted by extremists. They are supposed to make sure the weapons are not loaded when they enter buildings such as dining facilities, stores and office buildings.

At least 140 soldiers committed suicide in 2008, according to the Army, a considerable increase compared with the 115 cases reported the previous year and the 102 documented in 2006. The number is the highest since the military started tracking suicide data in 1980. The Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force also reported an uptick in suicides last year.

The number of soldiers who committed suicide during the first few months of this year is on pace to surpass last year's figure.

The Army's vice chief of staff, Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli, told lawmakers in April that at least 48 soldiers had committed suicide this year. "These current figures are unacceptable," he said.

Also on Monday, the military said an American soldier was killed by a roadside bomb in southern Iraq. The attack occurred at 2 p.m. Sunday in Basra province. U.S. soldiers recently deployed additional troops to the province to replace British soldiers, who formally ended their mission there last month.

From: The Washington Post
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Sum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to be
 
 
Sum Yung Guy
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-12, 01:59 AM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post "Soldier kills 5 comrades in Baghad."
I am sure glad I didnt goto the clinic for any reason. This shooting was about 300-400 meters from my tent where I am staying. I heard the shots and just thought it was a weapons firing range. Then they came and everyone in our unit has to be physically accounted for, and they posted double the guards at each major location on base. Almost home, and I still gotta watch my back. Jeeze.

The messed up thing is, the guy who did the shooting is apparently one of the new guys just getting to Iraq. You would think someone to go over the edge like that would be someone in mid-tour or later...

Last edited by Sum Yung Guy; 2009-05-12 at 02:01 AM.
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Sum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to be
 
 
Sum Yung Guy
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-12, 03:47 AM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "I am sure glad I didnt goto the clinic..."
Wow, that is freaky. While I was reading that, I wondered if you were anywhere near it. It must be freaky over there.
<script type="text/javascript">alert("remember when scripting attacks worked?");</script>
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Asamin has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darknessAsamin has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darknessAsamin has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darkness
 
 
Asamin
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-12, 08:58 AM in reply to Asamin's post starting "Wow, that is freaky. While I was..."
I saw this yesterday, almost posted it but didn't. Crazy that it was so close to you SYG. Keep safe, no use dying just before you get out.
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
!King_Amazon! simplifies with no grasp of the basics!King_Amazon! simplifies with no grasp of the basics!King_Amazon! simplifies with no grasp of the basics!King_Amazon! simplifies with no grasp of the basics!King_Amazon! simplifies with no grasp of the basics!King_Amazon! simplifies with no grasp of the basics!King_Amazon! simplifies with no grasp of the basics
 
 
!King_Amazon!
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-12, 09:05 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I saw this yesterday, almost posted it..."
:editoublepost delete this one

Same thing, and glad to hear you're okay dude. That's a freak type thing, since most guys do it from PTSD and if this guy is new, he probably shouldn't have that disorder. They ID'd the soldier today and have a bit more information out on it, but nothing substantial thus far.














Quote:
!King_Amazon!: I talked to him while he was getting raped
[quote][16:04] jamer123: GRRR firefox just like quit on me now on internet exploder[quote]
...
[quote=!King_Amazon!]notices he's 3 inches shorter than her son and he's circumcised [quote]

Last edited by WetWired; 2009-05-12 at 10:55 AM. Reason: doublepost
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
D3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidencesD3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidencesD3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidencesD3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidencesD3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidencesD3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidences
 
 
D3V
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-12, 11:02 AM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post "Soldier kills 5 comrades in Baghad."
Glad to see you're ok man. It's awful knowing you're never safe even from your own guys.
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
NonGayMan enjoys the static noises of ten television sets simultaneously tuned to 412.84 MHzNonGayMan enjoys the static noises of ten television sets simultaneously tuned to 412.84 MHz
 
 
NonGayMan
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-12, 11:13 AM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "I am sure glad I didnt goto the clinic..."
Sum Yung Guy said: [Goto]
The messed up thing is, the guy who did the shooting is apparently one of the new guys just getting to Iraq. You would think someone to go over the edge like that would be someone in mid-tour or later...
I heard sometimes they send in psychotic people, just for the idea that "they have issues, nobody will miss them, and they wouldn't mind killing at all".
Skurai
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Skurai has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darknessSkurai has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darknessSkurai has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darkness
 
 
Skurai
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-12, 11:17 AM in reply to Skurai's post starting "I heard sometimes they send in..."
Yea there are secret black operations all over the army, where they test crazy ideas on us soldiers... :sarcasm:
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Sum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to be
 
 
Sum Yung Guy
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-13, 05:41 AM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "I am sure glad I didnt goto the clinic..."
I'm glad that wasn't you SYG. You need to slap some bitches.
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Willkillforfood read his obituary with confusionWillkillforfood read his obituary with confusionWillkillforfood read his obituary with confusionWillkillforfood read his obituary with confusion
 
 
Willkillforfood
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-13, 06:29 AM in reply to !King_Amazon!'s post starting "I saw this yesterday, almost posted it..."
!King_Amazon! said: [Goto]
Keep safe, no use dying just before you get out.

Wasn't he going to "get out" in 2007? The cake is still a lie.
"Stephen Wolfram is the creator of Mathematica and is widely regarded as the most important innovator in scientific and technical computing today." - Stephen Wolfram
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Chruser shouldn't have fed itChruser shouldn't have fed itChruser shouldn't have fed itChruser shouldn't have fed itChruser shouldn't have fed it
 
 
Chruser
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-13, 06:43 AM in reply to Chruser's post starting "Wasn't he going to "get out" in 2007?..."
Chruser said: [Goto]
Wasn't he going to "get out" in 2007? The cake is still a lie.
Oh really? ELABORATE














Quote:
!King_Amazon!: I talked to him while he was getting raped
[quote][16:04] jamer123: GRRR firefox just like quit on me now on internet exploder[quote]
...
[quote=!King_Amazon!]notices he's 3 inches shorter than her son and he's circumcised [quote]
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
D3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidencesD3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidencesD3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidencesD3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidencesD3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidencesD3V is convinced there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidences
 
 
D3V
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-13, 07:52 AM in reply to Chruser's post starting "Wasn't he going to "get out" in 2007?..."
Chruser said: [Goto]
Wasn't he going to "get out" in 2007? The cake is still a lie.
The cake is not a lie! I saw it during the credits. Anyways I believe 2007 was my original timeframe for my contract to end. However last time I was in Iraq in 2006 I extended my contract by 2 years.
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Sum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to be
 
 
Sum Yung Guy
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-13, 04:41 PM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "The cake is not a lie! I saw it during..."
Sum Yung Guy said: [Goto]
The cake is not a lie! I saw it during the credits. Anyways I believe 2007 was my original timeframe for my contract to end. However last time I was in Iraq in 2006 I extended my contract by 2 years.
so you should've been out 2008?

6+2 = 8.

2009= 2009.

Hmm.... odd....
Skurai
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Skurai has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darknessSkurai has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darknessSkurai has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darkness
 
 
Skurai
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-13, 04:47 PM in reply to Skurai's post starting "so you should've been out 2008? 6+2..."
Maybe if you read what I wrote you would get it. My contract was to END in 2007. In 2006 I added 2 years to my contract. 2007 + 2 = 2009
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Sum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to beSum Yung Guy seldom sees opportunities until they cease to be
 
 
Sum Yung Guy
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-13, 04:49 PM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "Maybe if you read what I wrote you..."
Sum Yung Guy said: [Goto]
Maybe if you read what I wrote you would get it. My contract was to END in 2007. In 2006 I added 2 years to my contract. 2007 + 2 = 2009
OOoo, ok. I missed that part of the equation. the "added", It just went though as "I added 2 years to my current date" or something.
Skurai
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Skurai has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darknessSkurai has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darknessSkurai has an imagination enthroned in its own recess, incomprehensible as from darkness
 
 
Skurai
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-13, 05:01 PM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "Maybe if you read what I wrote you..."
Sum Yung Guy said: [Goto]
Maybe if you read what I wrote you would get it. My contract was to END in 2007. In 2006 I added 2 years to my contract. 2007 + 2 = 2009
Scary shit man. Keep safe.
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Wed-G is an uncelestial body of massWed-G is an uncelestial body of massWed-G is an uncelestial body of mass
 
 
Wed-G
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-05-14, 05:17 AM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "Maybe if you read what I wrote you..."
Your avatar is creepy. Why would you extend your contract? More $$?
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Willkillforfood read his obituary with confusionWillkillforfood read his obituary with confusionWillkillforfood read his obituary with confusionWillkillforfood read his obituary with confusion
 
 
Willkillforfood
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-06-06, 05:27 PM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post "Soldier kills 5 comrades in Baghad."

.....So you avoided enjoying the luxury of going to the clinic.
The fact is the military must win wars. The military accepts
people from the general population. The general population
believes in the sense of honor the moral construction obligation
has identified with itself. You did not go to the clinic and did
not get shot, which is good because why should you of all
people be shot when you are just "doin' yer' job?"

Last edited by Mdselctr; 2009-06-06 at 05:29 PM.
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Mdselctr shows clear signs of ignorance and confidence; the two things needed to succeed in lifeMdselctr shows clear signs of ignorance and confidence; the two things needed to succeed in life
 
 
Mdselctr
 



 
Reply
Posted 2009-06-07, 09:28 AM in reply to Sum Yung Guy's post starting "I am sure glad I didnt goto the clinic..."
That's some crazy shit. Glad you're all right.
Old
Profile PM WWW Search
Jessifer read his obituary with confusionJessifer read his obituary with confusionJessifer read his obituary with confusionJessifer read his obituary with confusion
 
 
Jessifer
 
 

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules [Forum Rules]
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Member's Stats glory_gamer General Gaming 71 2006-03-27 02:19 PM
The Untouchable -Planet Side Clan zethilone General Gaming 3 2003-05-21 04:48 PM
Favorite Movie Quotes Boomerang General Discussion 69 2002-11-22 07:22 PM
Soldier Of Fortune 2 Multiplayer Demo Chruser Forum News, Suggestions and Discussion 0 2002-04-19 07:46 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:34 AM.
'Synthesis 2' vBulletin 3.x styles and 'x79' derivative
by WetWired the Unbound and Chruser
Copyright ©2002-2008 zelaron.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
This site is best seen with your eyes open.