Where Is This So-Called List of Zelaron Improvements?

What the hell are you guys waiting for? Grav isn't going to be Unbanned for another 11 days or so, so you might as well just put up your improvements now.

Unless that was a big bluff and you have nothing important you want to say.

I just saved a bunch of money by switching to Geico.

Zelaron is fine to me. Leave it how it is now.

No need for improvements, this site is sufficient as it is.

Well, I know of a few that have been suggested, I'll post them in a sec but I don't support all of them. Keep that much in mind.

The summarized list:

• Desire to not have any negative comment be deemed as a flame or moved to the flame forum
• Not enough moderation, so Sov does most of it (poorly), need new flame/chat mod. Not just RS.
• Tired of mods editing posts and other censorship, want free(er) speech
• Swearing rules suck. I want to curse.
• Overly strict rule enforcement, but not for staff? If staff is going to enforce, they need to be removed for breaking their own rules. Simple. Not going to remove abusing staff? Why should we follow the rules then?
• More warnings, less insta-ban
• A thread going somewhat off topic doesnt need to be closed
• Less closing/trashing of threads that could be good or are controversial (staff flame, por ejemplo)
• Don't need to be told how to behave by someone who breaks his own damn rules anyway

I think 2 or 3 of these were gathered from D3V.

FUCKING FUCK FUCK!

I agree with some of those fucking changes.

That's a pretty decent and fair list, Slim.

no more 10 char limit ....

Golly Gosh i was just Joking! :-P

Well, let's put it this way.

Zelaron Member A wants to post something about the news.
Zelaron Member B wants to reply, but it is probably less than 10 characters.
Zelaron Member B has to lengthen the message so he can post it.

That's why it should be lessened.

Holy fucking shit, I just wrote out the longest fucking reply and when I hit backspace, the Alt key must have be stuck or something, because the page refreshed one page back and I lost it all... I will try to get the jist of it all down now.

Negative comments are different from flames. If someone posts constructive criticism, even if it sounds like a flame, it is fine. The problem occurs with simple name calling and cursing that have no point, other than to degrade someone without intent to improve upon anything.

More Moderation is needed, not only to alleviate Sovereign of his duties, but just because Mods aren't doing enough as of now. There is a new system being talked about right now, but much still needs to be ironed out. I don't know if it will even work, but we will see.

There was a big discrepancy with what should be Edited. Simple enough, the Staff are now aware that only advertising posts should be Edited. Everything else should be Split and Moved to the Trashcan. Mods are now going to PM a member if they think a specific topic isn't deemed appropriate. Then, if it is done again, action will be taken.

There are no swearing rules. Swear the fuck away for all I fucking care.

More consistency will be used when Moderating from now on.

More warnings will be administered. Remember, with User Notes, a members history is accessible, and some rule offenses could be grounds for an "insta-ban", as you called it.

Threads are only to be Closed when they go too far Off-topic or their purpose has been served. Others will just be moved to the Chat Forum if they suck, or if the Mod so pleases, to the Trashcan.

Good or possibly good threads are always to be kept around and clean, if possible. If a thread gets so contaminated, it is up the Mod whether or not they want to go through the effort to Split out the crap and keep it open, or to just Trash, Move, or Close it.

Holy fucking shit, I just wrote out the longest fucking reply and when I hit backspace, the Alt key must have be stuck or something, because the page refreshed one page back and I lost it all... I will try to get the jist of it all down now. Negative comments are different from flames. If someone posts constructive criticism, even if it sounds like a flame, it is fine. The problem occurs with simple name calling and cursing that have no point, other than to degrade someone without intent to improve upon anything.

Thank you for letting us know. We'd be at a loss if we didn't know you had to re-type it.

I'll be a new mod.

There you go smartass. I only wrote that because I was going to Edit the post until all points were covered. I didn't feel like going through the whole process again and making another dumb mistake and lose it all.

I could be a mod of something.

What the fuck Slim? Grav was going to post that when he got unbanned and he was going to go into MUCH more detail. You're out of the club!

Sorry, I wasn't informed of this. He can still do it when he comes back, this is just a basic outline anyway.

zelaron kicks ass no need for changes

What the fuck Slim? Grav was going to post that when he got unbanned and he was going to go into MUCH more detail. You're out of the club!

It's so cute, you guys have a club.

Holy fucking shit, I just wrote out the longest fucking reply and when I hit backspace, the Alt key must have be stuck or something, because the page refreshed one page back and I lost it all... I will try to get the jist of it all down now.

I've had similar things happen before. I try to copy the text I've written to my keyboard as often as possible.

It's so cute, you guys have a club.

Not really a club so much as a group of pure kickass.

but just because Mods aren't doing enough as of now.

I feel unloved.

You should be murdered for your signature.