Abortion Debate.

There's so many breakdowns of this argument it's not even funny.

I believe though, if a woman is in danger from having the child, she should have the right to abort the unborn baby.

If the woman finds out about being pregnant early enough on before anything is formed, she should have the right to abort.

Anything of this nature, if she was raped / whatever and is having a child with somebody she doesn't want to, and it falls under the 2nd option, then it should be okay.

There are probably millions of instances of abortions and there are skeptics for every single detail, but I believe if you can detect it before there is a heartbeat from the unborn child, or you are in danger it is okay, But if you're just a slut who sleeps around with everyone and ends up getting pregnant and don't realize it until about 4-5 months down the road when you have a huge ass belly, you need to just live with what you did and go through with the Birth. ...

There are always other options, you can give your child up for Adoption, it is NOT hard to find couple willing to take in a foreign child because they are not fortunate enough to make them on their own.



But what do you guys think?

If you're raped or your kid is going to kill you by having it, I'd say it's alright.

Pro-Choice here.

I don't approve of the, "Oh, forget a condom, I'll just go have an abortion" line of thinking, however there are circumstances where it should certainly be an option.

Hmm, no republicans so far, I was hoping to see some input and "facts" showing of how babys have a heartbeat after 2 weeks of conception, lol. I'm supposing everyone has the same general idea of thinking..

I can understand the whole "killing another human being" point of view as well, but there are situations where it should be an option and honestly, any voluntary method of population control should be looked upon favorably.

A few decades and we're going to be surpassing the Earth's ability to support us.

I'm in general against abortion. At least from a moral perspective. There was a thread on this not so long ago. If I find it I'll copy and paste my post from there.

Yeah I wasn't sure I get absent minded while i'm at work, most of the time. Morally I do find it wrong, but there are instances PERSONALLY that I think it is okay...

Copy + Paste:

Based on the content of my posts throughout my history at Zelaron, surely many people know that my political views lie mainly on the left. In my “My Objection to Religion” post, I stated that in general only the religious right opposes abortion. You might find it surprising, then, to see me vote against abortion, since my posts clearly demonstrate that I am an atheist, perhaps even an anti-theist. I would like to clarify why I voted against abortion.

Christians tend to believe that life begins at conception because at the moment of fertilization God gives the zygote a “soul,” for the lack of a better word. Putting aside my contempt for supernatural beliefs, those who truly believe in the Bible are entirely justified in their opposition to abortion. For instance, the following passage from the Bible shows that God values the embryo:

And if men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him; and he shall pay as the judges decide. But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life.

God commands that people punish anyone who causes a miscarriage.

Though I have reached the same conclusion as Christians in this particular case, it is not because I believe in a soul. On the contrary, it is because I don’t believe in a soul. Though I have come to a right-winged conclusion, it is because of rather secular beliefs.

As to my knowledge, a human being’s genetic makeup is conclusively formed at conception. Short of outside influences or a natural disaster that zygote will inexorably become a fully developed, living, breathing, cognizant human being. Ending this embryo ends the life which will inevitably follow, akin to murder in my book. I have no moral objection to abortion when the baby is a potent threat to the mother’s life or well-being, as there is a great risk of losing a life either way.

You can not, however, apply this same logic to masturbation as many pro-choice people like to assert. A human can not form from a sperm cell alone. Even during sexual intercourse it is highly improbable that any particular sperm cell will fertilize an egg. The difference between a zygote and a sperm cell is that the zygote will become a human whereas the sperm cell will not with the exception of a highly improbable scenario.

That said, I realize the benefits of abortions. Sex is a natural part of human activity and should be enjoyed. The threat of impregnation will always exist despite the increasing efficacy of contraceptives. It is not fair that what is otherwise a relatively innocuous expression of love between a couple could become the biggest mistake of their life. Abortion seems to be the only valid solution. If I were to impregnate a girl before I am ready for a child, I would seriously hope that she and I could sit down and talk about it and consider her having an abortion. I acknowledge that this may make me seem somewhat capricious; however, you may consider something immoral yet see and harness its practicality.

However I digress. The practicality of abortions is not what I wanted to discuss. I only wanted your opinions on whether abortions are moral or immoral.

Am I for a woman’s right to choose? Yes, when it does not impede on a greater right. I consider the right to life to supersede a woman’s right to choose. It is somewhat saddening to see how little worth we hold on human life. It is even more saddening that I am beginning to open up to this view.

Well written, Personally I wouldn't ever want to have the girl I got pregnant to have an abortion unless it was at the point where she was going to die if she didn't, then we'd have to sit down and discuss the options, probabilities of her death, other routes etc etc... But I have to side with Volls at the same time, saying if somebody else wants to have an abortion, then let them do what they want to, it will be God who decides their fate .....

In a nutshell, if a girl is raped, is a victim of incest, or if the mother is in danger from having the kid, abortion is alright. Other than that, I'm against it.

If you're raped or your kid is going to kill you by having it, I'd say it's alright.

Same. I also believe that the male has a chance to voice his opinion. He should have the option to at least have the kid, eventhough the woman goes through all the pain and sweat. But if it were my kid, and she didnt want it, i would be pissed. (Not like this is going to happen for a while)

I think if a father wants to have the baby and the mother doesn't, the father should be able to abort the mother once she gives birth to his baby.

I'm pro-choice. I'm against partial-birth abortion though. I think there should be a fairly stern limit on abortions as to when they can be preformed. The last trimester is just too late, imo.

I'm with Willkillforfood on the last trimester part. However, I am for abortion if the woman has been raped, subjected to incest, or she or the baby or both will die. But I also feel it is not my place to tell a woman what she can and can't do with her unborn child.

However, if a man wants the child to be born, then just give him the baby after it's born and be done with it.

Right. I don't think it's right for a woman to have an abortion just to save herself the pain of birth when the father wants the baby, even if she doesn't. That's so wrong for a mother to get an abortion when the father wants the baby. And it's incredibly selfish.

Usually bitches like that nobody would ever want to get preggo anyways, ..probably a whore would want an abortion just to stop the pain, because in MOST cases, girls/women would LOVE to have a child and it's usually the guy that is against it.

It's not like the actual act of abortion itself isn't going to be brutal x_X.

yeah honestly, Abortionfacts.com explains alot of options procedures etc.

yeah honestly, Abortionfacts.com explains alot of options procedures etc.

I think you should have the kid, He could mabye turn into a professional athlete and buy you a house.

Yea ...that's normally what I hope for when I think about having children.