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Posted 2002-05-16, 02:03 PM
http://www.zelaron.com/conspiracy

Blizzard, NASA scammed us, please ban their accounts and delete their heads!
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Posted 2002-05-16, 02:20 PM in reply to Chruser's post "Lunar Lunacy"
very instructive indeed.....
The more I think about it, the most I guess this is possible...
It was a huge 'race' between USA and USSR...

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Posted 2002-05-16, 02:30 PM in reply to Chruser's post "Lunar Lunacy"
As was explained on the NASA board that you yourself provided the link to, the things used to send man to the moon were designed and created by outside companies who delivered components that they beleived would send man to the moon. If NASA had purchased all such components, why would it rather fake it than just send man to the moon? There must have been thousands of people working on the different things needed for the mission including the vehicles. Don't you think that if what they delivered couldn't have worked that at least one of them would have spoken up?

http://sm3b.gsfc.nasa.gov/discus/mes...tml?1016208620
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Perhaps this is an opportunity to discuss with your students the fine line between rational skepticism and paranoia. You could ask your doubting students to construct an alternate explanation that covers the known facts. Indeed, the pictures could be fakes. How about the LEM, command modules, and Apollo capsule -- were they fakes? Thousands of engineers and technicians claim to have worked on them, some employed by the government and some by contractors. Are they part of the conspiracy? Or were they somehow duped? How about the external engineering review panels that checked that the designs would work. Are they part of the conspiracy? How about the thousands of financial auditors (who come from another branch of the government) who were checking that that money was being spent the way the reports said. You might also ask, if they didn't go to the moon, where did they go? And lastly, what about the experiments done firing lasers off the retroreflectors left on the moon by the astronauts -- are those scientists part of the conspiracy too? Be interesting to see what they come up with. Once you have it all on the board, you can ask everyone if the result is more believable than putting a man on the moon.
My own opinion is that you can't put together a conspiracy that involves a large number of people on a non-classified project, so all those engineers etc. really did build and deliver a LEM, command module, capsule, and boosters that they thought would make it to the moon. And if they built it, then you have to ask what the motivation would be for making fake photos instead of sending it to the moon.


For contrast, you might ask them if they think the Patriot anti-missile system really works.
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Posted 2002-05-16, 02:45 PM in reply to Chruser's post "Lunar Lunacy"
If you could imagine what people are able to do for power (even mass killing), you could imagine that faking some scientists and engineers is very probable and doesn't hurt. And about money, in the context of USA/USSR, this was not a matter at all. Credits were more used for army and space control as they were priorities.

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Posted 2002-05-16, 02:54 PM in reply to Chruser's post "Lunar Lunacy"
Omfg, that is soo correct, even though you did not write it . PS. You should make the forum link direct to this thread.

Wow, that is freaky indeed.
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Posted 2002-05-16, 03:00 PM in reply to Chruser's post "Lunar Lunacy"
Interesting, but its so obviously fake.. something that big can't be faked.

I mean, what about the people that died? There were some americans that died in a fire during testing and some russians that got killed by a screwed up launch..

Think they just got paid off to disappear? lol
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Posted 2002-05-16, 03:10 PM in reply to Chruser's post "Lunar Lunacy"
I didn't want to say that, but, what about people dies ? it's a price to pay. Sacrifying a few to get stronger all the others. That's how was thinking both government. POWER, always power....

And btw, bigger things had been faked...

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Posted 2002-05-16, 10:37 PM in reply to Chruser's post "Lunar Lunacy"
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I mean, what about the people that died?
The people that "died" were on the Apollo missions that didn't head towards the moon. Maybe the rockets were perfected, but some evil people just decided to blow them up, since they had no use? A few astronauts would be a low price to pay to have everyone beleive them, and America's honor is worth a few lives as well.
Anything to keep the Russians from actually getting up there first.

And for the recordings, especially the N. Armstrong clip, my guess would be that they launched an empty rocket and started playing a film they recorded several months earlier. When they returned to earth, they were just put in a drop pod on earth and then taken to the skies with a plane that dropped them off.
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